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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-28 06:56 pm

[ SECRET POST #2583 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2583 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect the people complaining about inconsistency have read a little more closely than you did. It wasn't just that Sherlock started out ignorant and had time to learn stuff, it was that he deliberately chooses not to retain knowledge that's isn't directly relevant to crime. Holmes believes that one's brain only has a finite amount of storage space (which is lulzy in itself, but I digress) and that he needs all of it for the detective work so he doesn't want to clutter it with information that he considers useless.

It's ACD writing himself into a corner, because obviously Holmes knows a wide range of things that may or may not be relevant to crime (and who's to know what will be relevant and irrelevant until the time comes?) and THAT'S why it looks consistent to readers. At least, to readers who read the text carefully.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Why is it 'lulzy' to assume that a brain can't store an infinite amount of data?

(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
Because the way Holmes approached simply isn't how the brain works. You don't go well, my brain's full so I'm not going to retain this knowledge you've just told me or I won't have room for the next fact I need. Your brain and memory function isn't that mechanic, so terms like "finite" and "infinite" are just... not applicable except in the broadest of ways.

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Oh don't get me wrong. I know it's definitely not authorial intent on ACD's at all. Not from the guy who can't remember if Watson was hit in the leg or shoulder, and who dated a case to 1892, when Holmes was pretending to be dead. O.<

I just mean that from a text-only perspective, it's consistent. It makes perfect sense for Holmes to decide "well, okay, maybe I should expand my brain attic to include a ton more trivial information, and maybe some Goethe quotes too" since trivial, seemingly irrelevant information has actually helped him in cases on more than one occasion.

Or maybe Watson's knowledge just rubbed off on him over the years. Holmes may "endeavor to forget" irrelevant information all he wants, but that's psychologically impossible to do consciously.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-29 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Late to the party, but I always pictured Holmes spectacularly bungling a really obvious case because he couldn't accurately parse, say, a really obvious Dickens or Shakespeare reference that a witness overheard someone else using. And then maybe Holmes would say to himself "okay, maybe the brain attic idea is actually kind of stupid. I will go devour all Watson's books to acquire the same frames of reference as a normal educated man would have."

After all, Holmes isn't one to dogmatically stick to his ideas when they fall apart. For example, he talks up how unreliable and irrational women are when he's being theoretical, but when he actually deals with women, his prejudices never lead him to illogically treat them like hysterical morons, because he prizes doing what actually makes sense far above any of his theories and inclination (some of which are really, really weird anyway, let's be real. Moran's character development mimicking his ancestry, what?)

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(Anonymous) 2014-01-29 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
That would make sense, except that we're never shown that Holmes has changed his mind. We're only ever given one explanation that's confirmed later on canon. Holmes says one thing, but demonstrates another via his actions.

That's textual inconsistency.
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[personal profile] tweedisgood 2014-01-29 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
That's ACD :-) We love him.