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⌈ Secret Post #2584 ⌋

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01.

[Danball Senki Wars]

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02.

[Harry Potter]

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03.

[Burn Notice]

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04.

[The Island of Doctor Moreau]

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05.

[Papers, Please]

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

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07.

[Pretty Little Liars]

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08.

[KILL LA KILL]

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09.

[Labyrinth, The Hobbit]

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10.

[The Hobbit]

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[The Hobbit]

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12.

[The Kiss of the Spider Woman]

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You take a stand. Kick the douchebags and radfems out--feminism has no place for man-haters and transphobic bigots, and those are the biggest problems with it right now.

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with being a MRA. I'm a MRA and a feminist because there's no contradiction between the two. Both sides have problems that should be addressed separately, and neither side should invalidate the other. That's doing equality wrong.

Egalitarianism is made up of many parts. Both feminism and the men's movement are part of the overall picture, but so are racial equality, economic justice, and basically the overall belief that everyone is equal. The two movements there are simply the sex/gender side.

Okay, honest question: what the heck is MRA? Is it actually just the male equivalent of feminism, discussing legitimate issues regarding the male gender?

Because I thought it was a severely anti-woman group. like, women shouldn't vote sort of crap.

It's supposed to be the first. But tends to default to being the second.

Okay, so it's just a case of a term, basic in concept, that's acquired a lot of baggage? Like apparently all other gender activist words. lol

I've got no problem in concept with the idea of men's issues, or sexism that affects men. But it is hard to separate the well-meaning activists from the sexist anti-women douchebags.

They claim to be advocates for the rights of men in arenas where they perceive men to be disadvantaged - divorce/custody courts, police handling of domestic violence or sexual assault against men, etc. However, in practice, it's mostly a coded dog-whistle term for anti-feminism and the assertion that men are actually the oppressed gender in the modern era. You see a lot of gender-essentialist, evolutionary-psychology bullshit in MRA rhetoric.

Yeah, no. There are a lot of problems with the men's rights movement, and they tend to boil down to the argument that "real men" have something that makes them inherently masculine and anyone who doesn't conform to that isn't a man, especially not men who were born intersex or with XX chromosomes.

I absolutely agree with you that male and female inclusion in the fight for equality is equally important, but I can't be part of any group that perpetuates exclusionary gender binary myths. *Feminism at least supports the rights of queer people and doesn't exclude based on heteronormativity.

*radfems not included, but then they aren't feminists in my mind anyway

An MRA and a feminist? How exactly does that work?

I've just never met an MRA who wasn't horribly bigoted. Or a troll. I'm trying to wrap my head around this.

I don't think you really understand what an MRA is.

MRA is the shield of legitimacy that douchbag misogynists use to attack feminism, It is a movement devised by men to counter every feminist effort and to hang on to every scrap of power over women that they can. It is to the equal rights movement what the Clan is to the civil rights movement.

You can not be a feminist and an MRA.

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