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⌈ Secret Post #2584 ⌋

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[Danball Senki Wars]

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[Harry Potter]

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[Burn Notice]

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[The Island of Doctor Moreau]

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[Papers, Please]

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

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[Pretty Little Liars]

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[KILL LA KILL]

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[Labyrinth, The Hobbit]

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[The Hobbit]

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[The Hobbit]

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[The Kiss of the Spider Woman]

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Well, technically the current issues with the marital court (in the US, at least) were caused by feminists, but other then that, you have a point.

How so?

I may be willing to concede that the overall lack of interest (from the majority of vocal feminists) in changing the situation may have lead to the unpleasant situation persisting, but how do you get to the answer "It's their fault?" Not saying you're wrong, per se, I just don't see it.

It was feminists in the early 1900's (I think is when it was) that advocated for changing the laws in marital courts in favor of the mothers when it came to custody, payments, things like that.

Hm. I'm not so sure you can pin that on feminism. They lobbied for (necessary) change in a blunt and simple time and change happened in the most blunt and simple terms possible. getting any social change to happen back then would have been like performing surgery with vaguely pointy rocks. "That arm needs to come off, let's give it a whack with this. Oh look he survived. Success!". Change happened but we can't expect it to have been clean or neat. I hold to my opinion that the fact that the system has not changed since is in part down to the fact that very few people seem to be interested in changing it.

Also, in regards to pinning this one on the feminists, it should be noted that the only reason these changes occurred in this way was because by the blunt and simple mind set of the time "Women need to take care of the babies, and we can't have women working a mans job, so let's change the divorce laws to support this." Women wanted change, Men wanted change that kept women in their roles, ergo a simple but inelegant solution was smashed together that some time later leaves men in a shitty position.

Also, women did need a better situation back then and the idea of blaming them for the mess left by the "solution" seems a bit like blaming the freed black slaves for the fact that no-one was doing the gardening. A change was necessary. we needed a better solution sure, but we also couldn't have let things stay as they were.

Finally, blaming feminism today for the actions of those women is as ridiculous as blaming men today for the sexism back then. Remember my "Blunt and simple" criticism of that time? that does not just to the men folk. Early suffragettes, while campaigning for womens rights also started up the white feather brigade that was designed to shame men who did not fight in the war. People back then just thought of things differently, and society has just moved on since then.

Wow. TLDR. Sorry.

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