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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-29 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2584 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2584 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Danball Senki Wars]


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02.
[Harry Potter]


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03.
[Burn Notice]


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04.
[The Island of Doctor Moreau]


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05.
[Papers, Please]


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06.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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07.
[Pretty Little Liars]


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08.
[KILL LA KILL]


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09.
[Labyrinth, The Hobbit]

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10.
[The Hobbit]


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11.
[The Hobbit]


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12.
[The Kiss of the Spider Woman]














Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 029 secrets from Secret Submission Post #369.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Feminism MRA and Men

(Anonymous) 2014-01-30 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
No. The goal of feminism is to achieve equality between the sexes.
eliminating patriarchy and misogyny is one of the means to achieve that goal. For example, when we have eliminated the patriarchy and misogyny we will still be blessed with our resident "It's not real rape if it happens to little boys instead of girls" misandrist. That is in part because the focus of a large-ish section of feminism in the past, (although the ideas have stuck around in a few branches of the movment) has been about framing men as the enemy. There is a lot of ignorance in the average human of either creed, combined with the resentment felt by any oppressed group means that "eliminate patriarchy and misogyny" cannot be the be all and end all of feminism. The enemy of feminism is not simply patriarchy and misogyny. it's not simply misogynists and misandrists, or societal imbalance. the enemy of all equality is as ever hatred and ignorance.

If I may amend your sentiment:

"The goal of feminism is to achieve equality between the sexes by eliminating patriarchy and misogyny, eliminating hatred and ignorance, and fostering the idea in everyone that we are all equal in the fellowship of humanity"
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Re: Feminism MRA and Men

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-01-30 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure feminism's definition ended at that first comma, with everything after it being part of social justice in general. It's just so damn vague, and...peripheral to feminism and connected to it, but I would hardly call it a central part of feminism in the same that first part is.

Re: Feminism MRA and Men

(Anonymous) 2014-01-30 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
No because misogyny and the patriarchy are not the only enemies of equality. If all you care about are womens rights then yes, all you need to fight are the misogynists and the social structure that supports their misogyny. If however you care about equality between both sexes you also need to fight the attitudes that let people like our aforementioned "Boys can't be raped, not really raped" friend think and act the way they do.

You have to fight for balance, not just fight against one side of the imbalance.