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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-30 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2585 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Monster High]


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[Bryan Fuller, John Green]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Pretty Little Liars]


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[Breaking Bad]


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[Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey]


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[Reign]


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[Leviathan: the last day of the decade]


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[Sherlock Holmes]


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[Steam]


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(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Arguably, Moriarty is more important for the story regardless of his gender, because he's the character who has the distinction of having killed Holmes. Or rather, pulled Holmes over a waterfall and given him reason to fake his death for three years, which is a massive event in canon. Irene, for all her personal impact on Holmes, had nowhere near the same narrative effect. Combined with the tendency of adaptations to put her in purely as a romantic option instead of as the person who rewrites Holmes' views of an entire segment of the population she is in canon, and a lot of people are annoyed less at her being in every adaptation, and more at her being shoehorned in for the sake of superfluous romantic plots that don't have the narrative impact a Moriarty plot usually does.

That aside, though, and a lot of people ARE annoyed with the tendency to include both. Mostly because, unless an adaptation is a longer series, it severely limits what potential stories are going to come up. We're going to have a Hound plot, an Irene plot, a Moriarty plot and/or a Study-in-Scarlet plot (or at least a Watson intro plot, unless they're jumping in in media res). If the adaptation is only a few episodes or movies long, that eats up a lot of plot, meaning that we get a lot of the same stories over and over again, and very little else.

It's a bit like superhero movies that reboot the same bloody origin story over and over again for a new era. We've seen this story. Pick a different one for a fucking change.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
You said exactly what I wanted to, but more eloquently.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-31 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I am so sick of Hound of the Baskervilles film adaptations. Not so much TV adaptations, since they have a serial nature, but if you're going to make a Sherlock Holmes film, why not do an original or semi-original plot? Or expand on something that was glossed over in canon?

Kinda OT, but I always wanted a story elaborating on whatever Holmes was doing with that Netherland-Sumatra affair that Watson tells us he's gonna skip because everyone knows what happened in his universe.
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[personal profile] fenm 2014-01-31 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if there could be an anthology movie where Watson introduces a few different stories/cases he and Holmes have worked on. I'd love to see "Copper Beeches" adapted again. Granada did it, but I'd love to see it done more. Once upon a time I was hoping Sherlock would do it, but I'm not sure I care about the show enough to want them to, now...

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
BBC Sherlock is never allowed near Violet Hunter. NEVER.
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[personal profile] fenm 2014-01-31 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, pretty much.

God, I remember loving this show, and now.... ~_~
(in fairness, I still love most of S1)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I'd like to see her on Elementary.
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[personal profile] fenm 2014-01-31 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that could work.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-01-31 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd give anything for a good COPP film.

Like, I'd even agree that the dog be fluorescent, if that's what attracts everyone in HOUN.

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
The Copper Beeches is the kind of thing that works better for TV than movies though.

/still annoyed that the Granada adaptation was so boring and unscary.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-01-31 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Why, though? Wouldn't it be essentially the same 90 minutes, minus the necessity to maintain continuity?

/MTE on the Granada version. It wasn't one of their best works, and this story deserves so much more.
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[personal profile] fenm 2014-01-31 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'd like to point out that I mentioned COPP as part of an anthology, where it would only be one of three or four stories. So it would not be stretched out to 90 minutes.
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[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-01-31 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't exactly what you have in mind, I think, but I'd love for it to be a Holmes comedy in the style of Nicholas Meyer's footnotes. With ridiculous and surrealeastic stuff happening randomly and Watson commenting on everything in the sassiest manner possible.

IA on HOUN, though; it needs to stop. It is hard to beat the existing versions in any event.
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[personal profile] intrigueing 2014-01-31 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
This reminds me that I still need to read The Seven Per Cent Solution.

A Holmes comedy would be GLORIOUS. If it was like, smart and satirical and stuff. They were all the rage back in the '70s and '80s, I think, the only problem being that they were mostly sort of shit.

I would also give anything for a Holmes/Poirot or Holmes/Miss Marple or Holmes/Young!Phillip Marlowe crossover. Crossovers don't get enough love.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-01-31 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I like your crossover ideas.