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fandomsecrets2014-01-30 06:43 pm
[ SECRET POST #2585 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2585 ⌋
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[Monster High]
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[Bryan Fuller, John Green]
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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]
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[Pretty Little Liars]
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[Breaking Bad]
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[Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey]
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[Reign]
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[Leviathan: the last day of the decade]
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[Sherlock Holmes]
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[Steam]
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Re: Past perfect (ESL here)
(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 04:40 am (UTC)(link)Let's compare two sentences, branching off of your "tens years ago, I was sure that..." (which already sounds a little weird, because you're relating the experience of being sure of something ten years ago, but let's fly with it.)
A. Ten years ago, I was sure that the new product was released before the war started.
B. Ten years ago, I was sure that the new product had been released before the war started.
In this case, B is the correct sentence. In relation to the war (a past event), the past perfect describes something that happened already (the product had been released).
Easier sentences:
A. I was sure that she had died before you were born.
B. I was sure that she died before you were born.
In this case, A is technically correct (I believe?) but I think many native speakers would say B, too.
-She had gone to the store before picking up the kids.
-He had eaten breakfast before he left for work.
to me, also sound correct if you say
-She went to the store before picking up the kids.
-He ate breakfast before he left for work.
So... I'm not sure if it's optional in some cases, or we're so adjusted to using incorrect grammar... I don't know. haha