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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-30 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2585 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Monster High]


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[Bryan Fuller, John Green]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Pretty Little Liars]


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[Breaking Bad]


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[Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey]


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[Reign]


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[Leviathan: the last day of the decade]


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[Sherlock Holmes]


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[Steam]


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Re: Past perfect (ESL here)

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
I think the answer is yes, if I understand correctly.

Let's compare two sentences, branching off of your "tens years ago, I was sure that..." (which already sounds a little weird, because you're relating the experience of being sure of something ten years ago, but let's fly with it.)

A. Ten years ago, I was sure that the new product was released before the war started.

B. Ten years ago, I was sure that the new product had been released before the war started.

In this case, B is the correct sentence. In relation to the war (a past event), the past perfect describes something that happened already (the product had been released).

Easier sentences:

A. I was sure that she had died before you were born.
B. I was sure that she died before you were born.

In this case, A is technically correct (I believe?) but I think many native speakers would say B, too.

-She had gone to the store before picking up the kids.
-He had eaten breakfast before he left for work.

to me, also sound correct if you say

-She went to the store before picking up the kids.
-He ate breakfast before he left for work.

So... I'm not sure if it's optional in some cases, or we're so adjusted to using incorrect grammar... I don't know. haha