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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-30 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2585 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2585 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Monster High]


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[Bryan Fuller, John Green]


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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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[Pretty Little Liars]


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[Breaking Bad]


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[Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey]


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[Reign]


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[Leviathan: the last day of the decade]


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[Sherlock Holmes]


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[Steam]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 017 secrets from Secret Submission Post #369.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
harp: (Default)

Re: OP

[personal profile] harp 2014-01-31 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
Take off. We can't have one single conversation about Howard without someone bringing up the racism thing. Yes, he had extreme views, but towards the end of his life when he traveled and met people and got educated, his views started to change. I honestly believe that if he hadn't died so young, he would've made more progress. The man said that the oldest, greatest fear was that of the unknown, and he really proved it later in his life when he started curing his own ignorance by meeting people.

Isn't that what counts in the end? Growth and change and correcting mistakes? How would you like it if on your 50th birthday your friends and family brought up all of the stupid things you said/thought/did when you were younger? Would you like your life to be defined by every instance of ignorance you ever had with no mention of your progress or change?

If I can get over the fact that he would've at one point found me icky because of my skin color then so can everyone else. I'm not demanding that anyone love him or like him, but if a bigot like Howard could begin letting go of his hatred, then why are you holding so tightly to yours?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
>Isn't that what counts in the end? Growth and change and correcting mistakes?

No, generally if you go to read a book, it matters what's on the page.

If people feel gross reading it, however much the author "grew" and "learned" 20 years later doesn't exactly do anything to improve that.
harp: (Fear of the Dark)

Re: OP

[personal profile] harp 2014-01-31 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
That's just fine anon. I hope, for your sake, that nobody in your life decides to throw all of your mistakes and shortcomings in your face years and years later. Or maybe they have and it's all you ever learned how to do.

But what's it to me if you want to cling to all the pet resentment you've built up over the years until it's all you have left and you die old and bitter with your indignation clutched in your fist. I'm just saying I wouldn't wish that on anyone, but if that's what you feel like doing, what am I gonna do about it?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2014-01-31 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like you are the one with a mess of balled up bitterness, because that's not even close to what I was talking about, and also kind of a sad ad hominem attack.

An author and a book are separate entities. The author can grow and change, but unless they go back and produce another edition, the words on the page can't. So yeah, if people read the book and found it upsetting and problematic because of what the author believed at the time, well, the book is still making people feel that way. And they're going to bring it up about the author, because that is the picture of the author's thoughts that we have.

I don't know what this argument is about throwing stuff in people's faces, anyway. These authors are pretty dead.