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Re: Kinks, narrative kinks, and favorite tropes!
Re: Kinks, narrative kinks, and favorite tropes!
(Anonymous) 2014-02-02 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)The Doctor and the Master from Doctor Who had some fun variations: see 'Claws of Axos', 'Logopolis', 'Trial of a Time Lord' and 'Survival' in Classic Who.
On the anime side, most of the Gundam series have some fantastic and some utterly tragic moments of this. On a more comedic note (most of the time), Lupin and Zenigata from Lupin III end up doing this with alarming regularity.
Mind you, Lupin's granddaddy ended up doing this with his nemesis as well (see Arsene Lupin and the Red Silk Scarf).
I have an utter fondness for this trope in chase movies and westerns, but I'm having trouble thinking of specific examples off the top of my head. Although, The Fugitive, both TV and movies, is fantastic in this regard.
Oh! Also Assault on Precinct 13, although the variation is a little different between the original and the remake (remake is more 'it went well', while original goes more the 'it went tragically well' route).
For TV shows, Person of Interest does this fairly regularly, with extremely variable results for the protagonists. Also Leverage. A lot of heist movies and shows seem to do this, which is possibly another reason why I'm so fond of them. Also chase shows. Both Dukes of Hazzard and The Incredible Hulk had moments where the protagonists had to help their oldest enemies because they're just basically too decent to let anything happen to them. With, again, varying results.
Erm. Those are the canon examples that immediately spring to mind. If you meant in fanfic, I might have more trouble.
Re: Kinks, narrative kinks, and favorite tropes!
Re: Kinks, narrative kinks, and favorite tropes!
NuWho, too -- as much of a train wreck as the Tenth Doctor two-parter "The End of Time" was, I liked how this trope ended up playing out between the Doctor and the Master.
Re: Kinks, narrative kinks, and favorite tropes!
(Anonymous) 2014-02-03 12:22 am (UTC)(link)In the DCAU, Lex Luthor was fantastic for this. On his side, there was that spectacular team-up with the League against Darkseid towards the end of Justice League: Unlimited. On their part, the entire Amazo and Justice Lords arcs hinged on whether or not they showed mercy towards Luthor at key junctures, with some utterly horrifying possible results.
Gargoyles basically ran the show on this, at least in regard to Xanatos. Much like Luthor, he had a knack for making his enemies realise that teaming up with him/sparing him/helping him was the best way out of a situation. Including, at one point, him just flat asking for their help, saying that because they were decent, that had always been his back-up plan.
The 2003 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles also had some good arcs, mostly involving Karai, the Hun, and once or twice even the Shredder. I still think the Turtles/Karai/Hun vs Agent Bishop fight on the train in 'Hun on the Run' was one of the best fights in the series (though less for this trope, and more for how amazingly badass Bishop was - he fought them off with his necktie). The Triceraton arcs also have some really good moments of this, too.
Some of my absolute favourite moments of Transformers: Armada (my first TF series) involved the Autobots having to work with Starscream for an extended period of time, and having it go shockingly and, in the end, tragically well. I think most of the other TF series had some moments as well, though Armada is the only one I watched consistently enough to remember.
Re: Kinks, narrative kinks, and favorite tropes!