[ SECRET POST #2591 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2591 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I refuse to accept goyim as being racist. It just means "people" and it isn't meant to be derogatory, even if it often seems to be used that way. Most of the time it's used affectionately.

Feel free to argue yourselves into the ground, I will not change my mind on this.

[(Anonymous)]

I have to agree... Jews are a goy too, says so in the bible. "I will make you into a great goy" and all that

[ill_omened]

I didn't imagine you would to be honest, especially given how insular large portions of the community can be to outsiders, but surely you find it linguistically telling that so many other cultural groups don't have a specific word for 'not us'.

[ketita]

Don't most other cultures have one? 'alien' in English, gaijin, waikukin, I forget the one for Chinese...

[ill_omened]

Lao wei.

Gaijin is on point, but alien shows exactly what I mean. It's an incredibly broad term that at a strech means 'not from my nation', but nation only speaks to legal constructs. Who can be from my nation is almost anyone. It doesn't have anything like the same connotations.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that Alien and Goy aren't really compatible- but it is more like gaijin, lao wei, guizi, farang, bule or ausländer. They can be constructed as insults- but then again, Jews are reffered to as a "goy" themselves in the bible several times. It's all about context.

[(Anonymous)]

don't worry. ill_omened is just pissy in general.

[(Anonymous)]

My Israeli friend has told me that over there it's practically a slur. It may not be racist exactly (Israel does not equal The Jews, and all that) but if you don't think it's derogatory you're just plain wrong.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Oh they knew

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, and in England "spaz" is a derogatory term, whereas in the US it is almost never used as such. Does that mean USers are no longer allowed to use that word?

[(Anonymous)]

"almost never used as such" doesn't make a derogatory term magically not derogatory. I'm pretty sure lots of kids don't mean to use "gay" in a derogatory slur against homosexuals when they use it to mean something is bad or ridiculous, but it still is.

/American who knows damn well that 'spaz' is derogatory

[riddian]

"Spaz" was always considered fairly derogatory and not a good word to use in the part of the US I've always lived in. Fairly mild and mostly used by kids in a joking way, mind you, but still insensitive, and you'd better believe the kids know it is.