[ SECRET POST #2591 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2591 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it's because a lot of people really like the old formula, no matter what you call it?

[caecilia]

I'm not sure if you're the same anon who said "How dare women have their own taste which is different from yours and not be offended at all.", but I hope you're not taking my criticism of something as a personal attack against those who enjoy it. It's fine if people like it, and they don't need my approval or permission to keep on liking it. One of the things that comes up in books and articles about writing is that the romance genre is formulaic (in other words, it's a known fact, and the publisher is in fact looking for stories that fit the formula) and saturated with tropes that I personally object to, and I think we're on the verge of a change. Art changes over time, and I think that's interesting and exciting.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't like that this supposed change sounds largely forced as some people thought their 'being offended' was universal and silenced those that didn't share their ideas. If it's happening, it's a loss for those who are not offended and happen to enjoy whatever you object to.
But hey, that stuff's popular for a reason, so I'm confident by fandom or by canon there's still be plenty of it in the future too.

[caecilia]

Ah. Sorry for the misunderstanding, then. I'm not talking about forcing anything, I just think we're in the middle of a cultural shift. Of course there are still people who like the old things, but I don't think they'll be losing out. If you look at the broad picture of art history, nothing ever goes away. Things just evolve, and sometimes they go back and forth. The way I see it, doing new things and offering fresh perspectives only contributes to art and literature. If this helps to clarify, I'm speaking as someone who is working to be a professional writer, so I study the industry and think about this a lot. And since I love romantic relationships, there's a bit of wishful thinking in here that maybe someday I'll have created something that made an impact on...someone. Even just one person. That probably sounds pretentious but whatever, that's just where I'm coming from. I'm sure in the future, you and other people will still be able to find plenty of things you enjoy.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm creating my own works as well, so I will definitely have something I at least will enjoy, but hopefully other people too.... and being a passionate fan, I'll always be promoting what I enjoy by others, also. So hey, no worries there. Best of luck to you.

[(Anonymous)]

So, if the main trope in romance was white men stalking and raping black women, it would be okay, because "someone obviously likes it?"

[(Anonymous)]

Are we talking actual, violent rape or "rape" where X is just in denial about their feelings about Z? Because romance novels normally feature the latter, not the former. Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with the latter, might be a refreshing change since usually it's white women and black men.

[(Anonymous)]

We're talking about rape. Actual rape. Stalking and raping people. And the woman then Stockholm Syndroming her stalker/rapist.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, I see you're another bullshit-parroting sjw who has no idea how Stockholm Syndrome works. Sorry, got better things to do than waste time with you.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh golly gee, that reminds me of a song!

Let's sing!

Now woman, get aw-hey
American woman, listen what I say-hey-heeeeeey

[(Anonymous)]

C'MON, YOU KNOW THE WORDS!

You're no good for me,
And I'm no good for you,
I'ma look you right straight in the eye
And I'll tell ya what I'm gonna do!
I'm gonna leave ya woman,
I'm gonna leave ya womaaaan!