[ SECRET POST #2591 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2591 ⌋

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Comments

[dreemyweird]

Oh, I agree that nobody should assume anything of the sort. Saying that somebody is "definitely a Jew" because they are described as having a big nose is just stupid. But it can be an argument in favour of somebody's Jewish headcanon, a minor physical trait that can sometimes be encountered in some Jewish folks.

(but it's just as true of Asians, I must say. Not all Asians have narrow eyes.)

I'm not sure that the watermelon example is correct, tbh. AFAIU, it's a myth that has nothing to do with the real state of affairs (I mean, why the hell would any random black person like watermelons more than any random white person?). But the Jewish nose thing is not a myth, it's a real anatomical trait.

Similarly, if somebody is described as having narrow eyes or dark skin, it does not necessarily mean that they are Asian or black. But if somebody thinks that a character with narrow eyes is an Asian, they are obviously going to use this description to support their theory.

[(Anonymous)]

But unlike dark skin or narrow eyes, big noses aren't prevelant among Jews- no more than they are among any other group of people. It's also a myth that has very little to do with the real state of affairs.

[dreemyweird]

Not among all Jews, no, but there are groups of Jews that have pretty distinctive nose shape as a prevalent trait. I don't think it's a myth.

[(Anonymous)]

It pretty much is.

[dreemyweird]

Well, IDK what to say to this? I know a ton of European Ashkenazim who look ~Jewish~ due to the combination of their nose shape, their eye shape, and some other features (i.e. hair). In my experience, it works. People with these facial features do turn out to be Jewish.

It doesn't even need to be prevalent. It only needs to be a feature that allows one to identify somebody as an Ashkenazi, which it is.

(Not big nose as such, mind you. It should be a particular kind of nose combined with some other physical traits. But, since one often doesn't have detailed descriptions of the characters they think might be Jewish, they can just settle on thinking that what is described might be the Jewish kind of big nose. Continuing the Asian parallel, one might similarly think that the narrow eyes of a character are the Asian kind of narrow eyes - even though Asian folks are by no means the only ones to have this trait, nor do all of them have it. Hell, there are whole Asian nations with perfectly "European" eyes, and there are whole non-Asian nations with narrow eyes. Does it invalidate the point? No. A particular kind of narrow eyes is a feature typical for particular kinds of Asians, and hence a description of a character with narrow eyes may be taken as an argument in favour of their being Asian. It is a headcanon, not a mathematical hypothesis, nobody expects it to be proved with any kind of certainty.)