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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-10 06:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2596 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2596 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Star Trek: The Next Generation]


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03.
[The Croods]


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04.
[Elementary]


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05.
[Final Fantasy XIII]


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06.
[SCP Foundation]


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07.
[Philip Seymour Hoffman]


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08.
[Twin Peaks]


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09.
[Richard Armitage]


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10.
[Reign]


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11.
[The Hobbit]


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12.
[Hunger Games]


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13.
[Don't Hug Me I'm Scared]


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14.
[Teen Wolf]


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15.
[Panic! at The Disco/Dallon Weekes]















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 063 secrets from Secret Submission Post #371.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Secret #1: Manic Pixie Girl

(Anonymous) 2014-02-11 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
You're failing to grasp what Manic Pixie Dream Girl means. It's not that people hate quirky, smart women. It's that this character type doesn't have a fleshed out personality beyond what's required to inspire/motivate the protagonist-- usually a guy. She has no agency on her own, she's just there to serve a man's fantasy. That's what makes this trope sexist.

And like someone already pointed out, by definition the Manic Pixie Dream Girl does not exist. (The underlined portion is a big clue.) Your friends are not her, because they're real. They're not cardboard characters to prop up a dude's loneliness and lack of ambition.

So I hope this helps?

Re: Secret #1: Manic Pixie Girl

(Anonymous) 2014-02-11 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Well, what I'm starting to get is that why I've seen characterized as Manic Pixie Dream Girl doesn't, as far as I'm concerned, constitute Manic Pixie Dream Girl. I'm seeing characters that seem and feel very real to me dismissed as Manic Pixie Dream Girls, and that's what's annoying me.

Re: Secret #1: Manic Pixie Girl

(Anonymous) 2014-02-11 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
People have gotten carried away with the term and are using it far too loosely. They are applying it to any female characters who are quirky, even the ones who aren't love interests or don't exist to help the male protagonist and might be far better classified as "wacky best friend" or "free-spirited heroine."

It's like people complaining about "Mary Sue" being applied to "Any female character I don't like" instead of it's original, narrower definition of "Blatant self-insert who is overly perfect (or has only endearing flaws like 'clumsiness.')" It makes the subject hard to talk about when people are coming in with different ideas of what the term means and some think it's awful and possibly sexist and some see it as a perfectly valid concept and functional term and neither side understands where the other is coming from.