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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-11 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2597 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Your imagination is a wonderful place, but here in reality there is no reason for another network to buy the show. I can't find any reports of other networks expressing an interest in buying it, as the previous anon claimed.

You can blame NBC all you want but they spent more money promoting the planned 13 episodes of the first season than they did on any of their full season shows. The fact is that viewers just didn't like the show. Critical acclaim isn't worth much if no one is watching.

Furthermore, Bryan Fuller's contract means the show will not change, so NBC (or any other network) has no way to boost ratings. Hannibal is a money pit and it's unlikely any other network would want to throw their money into it.
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[personal profile] purpleseas 2014-02-12 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Fuller said he had other offers. Why are you so invested in the idea of it being canceled?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not invested in the idea of it being cancelled. I'm genuinely curious why so many fans insist it won't be or that another network will pick it up when there's no evidence of that, nor any reason. I actually love the show and don't want to see it cancelled. Unfortunately it is very likely that it will be and it bothers me as a fan when other fans make claims that give false hope. It also bothers me as someone who works in advertising that other fans seem to think that an average of 2.5M viewers won't contribute to a cancellation or discourage other networks from picking it up. An average of 2.5M viewers isn't enough to justify the production price (or in this case the purchase price). Burying our collective heads in the sand about that is not going to save the show. Getting others interested in watching it so the ratings increase is the fandom's best chance at keeping the show, not painting us all as delusional.
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[personal profile] purpleseas 2014-02-12 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
No offense intended, but your approach to this is really not good if you're saying this sort of thing to prospective viewers. Talking about cancellation like it's a sure thing doesn't attract new viewers at all, and in fact does a lot to deter them. Here's a source about the other offers, and about the network's attitude toward the show:

http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/hannibal-producer-bryan-fuller-on-cannibal-cuisine-renewal-and-more

How relieved are you that you're going to be able to do a second season? Was there a point during this season, when the ratings were what they were and NBC wasn't saying anything at all, and the upfronts came and went with no decision — how worried were you that this would be it? And were you surprised when they called you up to say season 2 was a go?

Bryan Fuller: I knew there was going to be a second season, regardless, whether or not it was on NBC.

Because of the foreign deal?

Bryan Fuller: Because of the foreign deal and because of other interests that had stepped forward and said, "If NBC doesn't pick up the show, we want to." So I knew there was going to be a second season. I just didn't know whether it was going to be on NBC.

They had this property, they seemed really happy with it, to the point where (NBC entertainment president) Jennifer Salke has said they passed on "The Following" because they had you and loved you. And yet you wound up being held for a very long time in the season, get put into a timeslot where they've really struggled for a few years now. What do you think happened?

Bryan Fuller: I think there was certainly caution on NBC's side. They supported the show creatively and really allowed me to make the series that I wanted to make and tell the story that I wanted to tell. There was relatively no interference and a lot of support on really delivering a very complicated psychological tale. What happened is that you have the people who are supporting the creative and championing the show with me, and when you get to programming, which is a different head of the hydra, that there's no telling where the programming department will feel safe putting a show. But that had no reflection on Jen Salke's support, or Vernon Sanders'. The day to day executives who interacted with the show were all, "We believe in this show. This show is amazing." Part of what made the show so doable on a network was that they were so supportive, but that doesn't necessarily mean they can influence who's programming the schedule or where they put the show based on advertising dollars. The reason they didn't announce us at upfronts is that they wanted to remove this show from a ratings conversation. Upfronts are all about ad sales. The advertisers are like, "Wait, you've got 2 million people watching it live, and 5 million watching it time-shifted," and that doesn't necessarily give them a lot of confidence. So I think them removing "Hannibal" from the upfront conversation was a way to safely pick it up for the future — to keep it as far away from a ratings and ad sale conversation as possible.

Edited 2014-02-12 08:51 (UTC)