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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-11 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2597 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2597 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-12 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I do find the 'incest ruins the message!11!' a little weird

But in this case, it really, honestly does. The entire message of the film was that true love doesn't have to be romantic. By making it romantic, you're completely invalidating the movie's point.

It's not incest ruining the message, it's making a relationship that is explicitly intended to be non-romantic into a romantic one.
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[personal profile] terabient 2014-02-12 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I agree that the message that true love can take forms beyond the romantic interest of a man and a woman, is the point of Frozen. And if you're reading Elsa and Anna's relationship as romantic and you think it's intentional that is pretty silly.

What I meant to say is, there are a few posts on tumblr and elsewhere that say, in effect, that Frozen is groundbreaking because familial love is what ends up saving the day, as though a Disney film championing family is somehow shocking and against the norm, and people who choose to ship Elsanna are doing so because they need to 'make everything romantic!' as if romance itself is less important. Disney films--even the Disney princess films--are as much about family bonds and honoring love between family members as they are about princesses meeting boys they eventually marry; acting as if Frozen is incredible for, once again, showing audiences that family love is powerful and beautiful and that people who like Elsanna are ruining something RARE AND SPECIAL!!1! because they want dirty awful romance is annoying.

Basically I get annoyed whenever a ship is denounced because the canon platonic reading is seen to be 'better' or more unique than a fanon romantic interpretation, especially when the fanon ACCEPTS canon will never back them up. Of course, the fact that Elsa and Anna are sisters complicates things, because yeah, incest is wrong. I just wish people would go "I don't like Elsanna because ugh, incest" instead of saying "platonic love is special DON'T RUIN IT WITH ROMANCE!" Of course, most people do say 'ew incest' and not 'ew romance.' But not everyone.

I realize this doesn't have much to do with the secret OP posted. ^^;