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There's no such thing as "enjoying something ironically", so I shall own up to my liking of this absurdly fun cheesy pop tune: Miranda - Don

On the other hand, Radiohead is not the most complex thing I enjoy, but I'm thinking in terms of "taking oneself seriously", and in that case, Thom Yorke really takes the cake. Radiohead - In Rainbows (From the Basement). (Yes, I have this as mp3, I love the sound).

Of course you can enjoy something ironically. You can like how obnoxiously bad something is without liking the thing itself. I enjoy the existence of rickroll but I'd never choose to listen to it.

You keep telling youself that, Anon.

And you go on thinking you know what goes on in other people's minds, I guess? You started the sweeping incorrect generalizations. /shrug

Are you the OP, though, or just want someone to antagonize? :o No sarcasm here, I'm honestly curious.

"Liking something ironically" is like preemptively apologizing for liking something that's not mainstream to like, I think. It's a snobby phrase. Following your example: I know Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up is a simple tune heavy on synths that a lot of people deem "bad", and I don't actively seek it out either, but you'll never see me apologizing for dancing to it or singing along. If it's fun, it's fun, no matter the quality. *shrug*

I'm the OP.

And maybe it means that to you, but there are plenty of people who aren't so focused on hipsterism or anti-hipsterism that like things ironically. I like lots of movies that I know are objectively awful and unfunny because I like watching them to mock them. I know they're not actually funny or succeeding at what they were going for. Hence, I enjoy watching those ironically. "Mainstream or not" has nothing to do with it unless you were already thinking it. I wasn't, why were you?

It wasn't meant as a deep statement of my beliefs at first, heh. I said it in a lighthearted way, as one would say "ok I know these guys are awful but I won't apologize for liking them!". It was after you engaged that I started thinking more about it.

I can get "liking ironically" if you mean it as "liking [it] for not succeeding at what they were going for", though! ^^ I'm always watching "so bad it's good" stuff with my friends, it's great. I just meant that I'm not ashamed of enjoying "objectively bad" stuff :3 I'm sorry if I made this such a big thing.

If you think about it, enjoying things ironically, or for how awful they turned out to be or how hard they failed at the genre, is the entire point of the shitstreams that people do around here, lol.

I was originally trying to specify that stuff like the shitstream wouldn't count, since it's not enjoyment of the material for the material itself, so it was pretty key, that's all.

It's alright, I'm glad we talked. o/ (I like the shitstreams too, ahaha.)

"Never Going To Give You Up" is a really well-made listenable pop tune. It's not obnoxiously bad, it's out of fashion.

It's the lyrics that push it into obnoxiously bad for me. If you argue the lyrics aren't obnoxiously bad, we're just going to have to disagree.

I wouldn't say obnoxiously bad. Blah and unoriginal I guess.

But I don't really care that much about lyrics. At least not negatively - I like good lyrics but I don't really dislike bad lyrics unless they're really really really dumb. So maybe it's just that.

It's p. much the ultimate friendzone song.

A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy~~~

Blech.

I don't think it's a friendzone thing. It's not a "You're going out with other guys rather than me, who would be the best romantic partner" thing and there's no indication that he's being anything other than upfront about his intentions. He's just doing the romance song trope of "This is how good of a lover I am" but in a really exceptionally dopey way.

I'm the Argentinian anon and came to post exactly the same song.

LOL

ILU, Argentinian Anon.

I thought of posting El Profe, but the wonders of the lyrics get lost when you don't speak Spanish X'D

Edited 2014-02-15 23:25 (UTC)

El profe is so cringe worthy, though. I can't listen to it without cringing and giggling. When the video came out I remember we used to sing it without understanding how dirty it really was D:

My favourite Miranda song is Traición. So much fun to scream, I mean sing (heh) the fast part towards the end.

Saaaame XD But I was 15 when that album came out? I think I was in II° Medio; so we did get what the song meant. (And used it to tease a friend that had a creppy stalkery crush in a History teacher. Good times.)

Traición is awesome to ~~scream~~ sing, though my favorite is Yo Te Diré because it's part of the soundtrack of the ship I've spent the better part of my adulthood roleplaying. And I admit I have a liking to the more "OMG DRAMATIC!1!" songs as well, like Tiempo and Tu Juego, lol.

(I hadn't seen the video for Traición, omgggg, it's gold.)

Yeah, I love the "plot" of Yo te diré. So shippy!
I don't know the others, I just had one CD.

I was 11 when the album came out, but I think the video came a few years later. Still, I got that the song was dirty but not how dirty it was.

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