[ SECRET POST #2601 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2601 ⌋

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Comments

Re: How many languages do you speak ?

[diet_poison]

That's not actually going to get you to learn the language though. You'll learn ABOUT it, but you won't be truly fluent in it until you've been immersed.

Re: How many languages do you speak ?

[(Anonymous)]

How is not learning a language if you can read it and write it? The speaking part will always be difficult unless you can practice it, but the knowledge is already there.

I don't get it, how do you think people learn new languages then? A lot of people are able of mastering a language without leaving their country.

Re: How many languages do you speak ?

[diet_poison]

If you can read and write it, that's just reading and writing. Knowing a language in its entirety also involves speaking it.

I don't get it, how do you think people learn new languages then?

Immersion. You can get fairly good at it if you have someone fluent to practice with on a regular basis, I think, but barring that, it's going to be very difficult to attain any level of true fluency if all you're doing is taking classes while speaking your native language the rest of the time.

Re: How many languages do you speak ?

[(Anonymous)]

Knowing a language does not necessary mean being fluent.

It's this kind of attitude that puts people off learning in the first place.

What's wrong with learning enough for a simple conversation, enough to get directions, to watch the news or read a newspaper? That all qualifies as knowing a language, to some degree.

There are many people who can't even properly spell their native language, or have a limited vocabularly in it, less than foreign learners. By your definition, these people know 0 languages, which is clearly wrong, as they know enough to get by day to day.

Re: How many languages do you speak ?

[diet_poison]

The trouble is if you say "I know X language", and don't add any qualifiers, then you might find yourself in a situation where you're in over your head.

If you know "enough of a language to get by" but aren't close to being fluent, you should say "I know some X language" or "I speak it but not fluently". That's what I say for the language I am still learning.

There's nothing wrong with not being fluent in a language. I'm just saying that if your only options are "I know X" and "I don't know X" you're not going to be able to portray your knowledge accurately most of the time.