[ SECRET POST #2606 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2606 ⌋

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[quantumreality]

Example: The Calormenes.

They're stand-ins for Turks or Arabs, who use curved scimitars and are all mustache-twirling villains (at least, the men are; the women seem to be more variegated), and who eat funny foods.

[(Anonymous)]

...the women are different colors?

[(Anonymous)]

*sporfle*

[quantumreality]

I meant that the women don't all seem to be uniformly villainous.

[(Anonymous)]

da - Varied :)

[quantumreality]

Oops. :O

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Nah you're using "variegated" right - it can mean "different colors" OR "varied" :)

[(Anonymous)]

who use curved scimitars and are all mustache-twirling villains

Because that automatically means Lewis was going for Turks and Arabs to specifically say that he thought Turks and Arabs were all villains. Because he wrote stock OTT villains out of Arabian Nights for his children's books, quite some time ago.

Yeah, no, try again.

inb4 the SJWs dogpile me for yadda yadda yadda w/e. Narnia has 99 problems, and racism ain't one of them. The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe featured talking beavers and had a centaur and and and....

Ahem. Sorry. I'll mop up.

[(Anonymous)]

DA.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

[(Anonymous)]

rofl what are you on

there are a *lot* more things than scimitars that indicate that the calormens are arab/ottoman expies, thread OP just didn't list them all

Tisroc is Allah like Aslan is jesus, there are harems and a sultan and camels and turbans, it's not subtle at all, it's about the same level of cultural coding as Aladdin

also there is shit like 'the one good calormen truly knows aslan in his heart, even though he says tisroc with his mouth' in the Last Battle (iirc) which is word-for-word lewis christian condescension philosophy with the names changed

nobody is ~assuming~ calormens are meant to be arabs just because they're bad guys, it's very obvious - and *also* they're mostly villains

[(Anonymous)]

(Tash is the god; Tisroc is the sultan.)

[(Anonymous)]

Lewis had a lot of really shitty ideas re: Christianity.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Lewis was a late-in-life convert. He probably went overboard with it as a result.

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you. It'd be easy to scoff and be all, "Oh, those silly SJWs!" but it's pretty obvious what Lewis was aiming at. He wasn't particularly subtle, but then he didn't think he had to be, so...

[(Anonymous)]

the way he wrote Tash as Allah (PBUH) but a demon was repulsive.

The book was more racist than sexist which is saying something for the time. But yeah 12 year old me loved that book.

Voyage of the Dawn Treader still rocks though. And the Silver Chair.

[(Anonymous)]

It's "Allah (swt)" if you want to adopt the Muslim honorific. "PBUH" is used for prophets.