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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-20 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2606 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2606 ⌋

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Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was under the impression that "manpain" was specifically when something bad happens to a woman/child in fiction, and the medium portrays male grief as though it's ALL ABOUT HIM. The focus isn't on the victim, but on the male bystander (with the unfortunate implication that no one really cares about the death/rape of a woman unless it effects a man).

This isn't mainpain, as it's pictures of real life men feeling genuinely concerned and upset about their skating partners.

OP can still enjoy it if he/she wants to, but it doesn't fall into the definition of manpain.

Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, a good number of people use "manpain" as "man feels emotion over anything" and usually in a derogatory fashion. I've personally grown sick of it because of that reason.

Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
yeah that's how i've always though of the term too

Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and isn't it also a criticism about a specific literary trope, not about real men being justifiably upset.

Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
But if the story is told from his point of view, how is this a bad thing? Of course it's going to be all about him if he's the narrator or the focus of the story because we get more insight into his thoughts than we do the other characters.

Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's not like "I'm going to write a short story about a guy whose wife died and how he's coping with that." it's like "I'm going to write a novel/tv show/video game with a huge cast of characters and lots of exciting adventure--I'll introduce a female character but instead of making her interesting I am going to kill her in act two because I need a reason for my male main to be sad." Female characters can die, male characters can be sad, but when it's done this way it's sexist and lazy.

Re: Okay

(Anonymous) 2014-02-21 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
and here i've always thought manpain was man feeling pain.