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⌈ Secret Post #2607 ⌋

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[Shaun of the Dead]

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13. http://i.imgur.com/Lnyxfbz.jpg
[link for porny, doujinshi]

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14. [SPOILERS for DRAMAtical Murder]

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15. [WARNING for rape]

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[Gatchaman Crowds]

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19. [WARNING for molestation]
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Seeing as just about all published work is entirely comprised of original characters, female and male.

(I know this is overly nasty, but I've had a long day and I now have a Pavlovian surge of anger whenever I see the words "Mary Sue.")

...and the characters written about in fic are all, at the source, actually original characters.

I was going to say something about this, actually, but then the comment got ~2 pages long and I decided to quit while I was ahead.

Yup, I feel the same way.

Except it's not the same thing at all? When you read a fanfic, you expect to know the characters, you read the fics because of them (most of the time).

No two people headcanon a character the same way. Technically, every time you write a character, your creation or someone else's, it's technically an original character.

No. No matter what you change about a canon character when you're writing fanfics, even if the fic is a whatever AU, or badly OOC, readers will still have the canon in mind. They KNOW the characters. And that's what they expect to see when they read fanfics.

Books are a blank state. You get in knowing nothing beside the summary (except of course if it's a series).

Totally different expectations.

They 'KNOW' the popular fanon and tropes about the characters. Whether they know the actual characters is often questionable imo

But that's just more of the same, whatever knowledge they have of the character, they have some of it, and that's who they expect to see, not OCs. Books are totally different, you get in without any background. You learn the characters, you don't expect to know them already.

I remember a discussion like that months ago, abou OCs. I don't mind OCs, I like them in fics, though rarely as main character, but, emotionally, they will never have the impact a canon character that I know and love will have. They're just not on the same level. And sometimes, I just don't want to take the time to fully discover that new character, I just want to read about the characters I know. If I want to read about OCs, well, I open a book.

Sorry, but I disagree. For me, writing fanfic and writing original fiction are two completely different mental processes for me. Interpreting a character in my own unique way is still me interpreting a character, based on canon facts. When I make my own character, I have to create all those facts myself.

The term "OC/original character" has come to mean "MY (the author of this fic's) original character". And some people like them in fanfic, some people don't. It depends on what they want out of the fandom, which very often differs from what they want out of a canon work.

Edited 2014-02-22 03:29 (UTC)

Came here to say this. Lots of people don't like fan-created characters in fanfic. It's not a weird thing that the OP made up.

Except that there are plenty of popular fanfic that have Characters in Name Only that people eat up.

Prime example: The Draco Trilogy - "Draco" in that story was pretty much an original character.

I said lots of people, not everyone. And even if it's in name only, those people started reading that story because it said Draco Malfoy. So even if he wasn't anything like Draco, in their minds he at least looked like Draco.

IDK

Except for the random Buffy quotes (which no one in the Potterverse would say), Draco is pretty much a valid and interesting version of Draco for me in that series of stories.

Yes! Any time you have Harry and Draco together, or Harry and Snape--that is ridiculous and *completely * out of character. Harry and Snape, as if! (although I did read one where it was actually believable because it was carefully written to be very much in character...) They're canonically hetero, they hate each other, they are idealogically opposed to each other--just make up your own gay couple instead of forcing Harry and every other male character into these crap pairings. For the life of me I have no idea why so many writers are so obsessed with this garbage. I wouldn't be so grumpy if more of it were better written but 95% is crap.

When you read a fanfic, you expect to know the characters, you read the fics because of them (most of the time).

I realize that this is covered in your "most of the time" caveat, but I still think it's important to explicate: for some readers, the setting and/or fandom tropes (e.g. Sentinels, soul-bonded wolves, etc.) can be more important than the characters. Not everyone's gonna be fannish in the same way, and getting excited about a fandom's worldbuilding isn't any less legitimate than getting excited about its characters.

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