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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-23 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm a woman and I've plenty of reasons to hate Tumblr, none of them related to the female userbase. The idiocy that is not only allowed but encourage on Tumblr (and one of the main reasons why I hate them) isn't socially accepted in most online communities.

If I acted like Tumblr people do in the communities I belong to, people would attack me and tell me to fuck off and stop acting like an annoying underage kid.
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Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-23 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
There was an episode of The Simpsons where cameras and speakers were installed all over Springfield, and Ned Flanders became an overseer, and lectured everyone on their behavior when he saw them doing something he disapproved of. There was a single blind spot in the Simpsons' backyard, and at one point I think Chalmers was dancing ballet dressed at a goat.

Now, you don't have to imagine the internet being incredibly hostile to women and girls. You've experienced it. But let's say you found a place where you could get away from that. Everything you can't say, that you've buried inside you in a pressurized bubble of resentment and anger, finally has an outlet. Tumblr allows you to express that, and since it's letting of steam, people get burned. That's just kind of how the site works.

(If you have an account and are willing to come off anon, I could use a different analogy that's a bit more private and a LOT closer to what I'm trying to say.)

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, same here.

I find it bizarre that the various other fandom communities I'm in, on LJ and Twitter and so on, are almost universally friendly and supportive and genuinely nice places to spend time, but the fandoms for the exact same shows on Tumblr just turn into huge piles of wank and end with a bunch of people yelling at each other, and sending anon hate, and hating on anyone with a different opinion to their own. Sometimes this is even the same exact people as in the other fandom communities.

There's just something about the format of Tumblr that leads to a kind of fandom that I, at least, don't find it fun to be a part of.
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Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-23 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
And that's fine.

I'm just sick of seeing people crap on Tumblr for the reasons that convinced me to I sign up. If people rejected the difficulty of finding interesting posts with or without tags, the ability to have discussions that don't splinter into a thousand different directions, or the impossibility of using a website that goes down every few days, I'd agree wholeheartedly. But when I read about how people hate Tumblr (Tumblr specifically, as if it was the only place where this showed up) because of the vocal minority of...certain people, I have to wonder if they go on the internet. Ever.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe you can accept that the community you belong to is obnoxious and cancerous enough to have people hating on it, and with good reasons.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
Every community has a group of people like that, and they're usually what people see. If you haven't noticed one, you're probably part of it. The fact that you left this comment at all is also a hint.
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Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

[personal profile] othellia 2014-02-24 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
If people rejected the difficulty of finding interesting posts with or without tags, the ability to have discussions that don't splinter into a thousand different directions [...] I'd agree wholeheartedly.

Late response is late, but yeah. Whenever I complain about tumblr it's always about these two things.
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Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-24 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm still up, so you're not that late.

Yes, Tumblr's format...there are so many posts that I want to go back and edit. Tumblr is so far from perfect, and I realize I ended up trying to make it sound like it was.
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Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

[personal profile] othellia 2014-02-26 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
The way tumblr handles edits and original posts vs copying the data is so weird.

Like half the time the entire text post/original image URLs get copied over, so later edits are impossible. And the other time I find an interesting thread (okay, they're not really 'threads' but I don't know what else to call them), but the original comments that started the whole thing have been collapsed and when I click on their source to read the whole thing from the beginning, they've either deleted or swapped their blog name and I'm totally lost.

I do enjoy tumblr, but 99% of my complaints are definitely about weird structural things. And being a web developer I don't know whether it makes them more frustrating to me or less, because some I'm like "okay I can see where they'd run into issues" and others are just like "OMG BASIC, EASY-TO-USE LAYOUT FOR SEARCHING MULTIPLE TAGS IS NOT THAT FUCKING DIFFICULT".

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
stop acting like an annoying underage kid.

Accurate description of 99% of the Tumblr userbase IMO.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
And the worst part of it is that a lot of them are adults. As annoying as young kids can be, it's natural that they act like that. But when you see people in their twenties or even thirties writing things like "sajdhusjdfhjhsgfgh oh my god my feeeeeeeeeeels", it's a big NOPE kill them with fire.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

For me, it's the ones in their thirties (the ones in their twenties I view the same as teenagers) who are happy to label themselves into neatly-painted little cage/box.

Yeah, that's the thing to do when you're going through puberty and trying to ~find yourself~ but anyone voluntarily trying to win gold in the Oppression Olympics once their hormones aren't trying to grow their brains outside of their skulls (did I mention how greatly I enjoyed my adolescence LOL) automatically deserve a Life: FAILED assessment, IMO.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really see a problem with labels. They're not cages, and I've found that most of the people who refer to them as such are the ones who fit neatly into one label or another, and are just trying to feel special by denying that the box they fit into exists.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no problem at all with people in their 20s, 30s, 90s, however old keysmashing about their feels. People of all ages are allowed to get excited and be incoherent. What bothers me is when people old enough to really know better start slandering, belittling, and bullying each other with a grossly "high school" mentality. You're free to be as happy as you want whatever age you are, but that kind of petty asshole-ishness is what we all wanted to get away from in high school anyway. Why carry it with you forever?

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Because people older than 20 doesn't have feelings and cannot have any kind of fun.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
You don't need to act like you're brain dead/having an aneurysm to have fun, you know.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
You choose the strangest things to be mad about.

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
I used to feel this way, but I find that I care less the older I get.

Now, the mark to me of immaturity is someone saying things akin to this, or akin to what was said by the anon who replied to you. I see people getting worked up over appearances and/or how others have fun, and I think, "why on earth do they care? Have they not figured out that bit of life yet?"

Re: Thank you, F!S, for proving OP's point

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I know plenty of women who hate on teenage girls specifically, your gender is not an argument. That aside, are you talking about the general humor on Tumblr or something they actually do?