[ SECRET POST #2609 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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Comments

[dethtoll]

Hm, nah. A lot of what SJWs talk about I agree with on general principle. It's how they go about it that's completely wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean calling something "SJW". I've noticed a lot of times people will act very much like a SJ or SJW but then start sling SJW around like a dirty word the moment an opinion they disagree with or makes them uncomfortable comes up.

[dethtoll]

It might be because I don't read every thread, but I haven't really noticed that here...

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't crop up here as much as other places. But you see strains of it in the 'oh yuck tumblr is nothing but a hive of sjws' when that's like saying lj is a hive of sjws. It's just a tactic to make something they dislike look worse.

[dethtoll]

Not to play devil's advocate or something but that's a reputation LJ never really gained, whereas tumblr kinda did?

(Now, certain communities on LJ, sure -- sfd_anon, for example, back when that was relevant. Dreamwidth isn't immune, either -- go visit scans_daily if you want to see how SJWs turned a comic book community into a joyless shithole with 24/7 language policing. But isolated communities aren't the same as a huge swath of tumblr, a site that has made reblogging absolute horseshit very easy.)

[(Anonymous)]

Race!Fail 2009 basically covered LJ from end to end when it was happening. And got the whole SJW insanity started, IMO.

[dethtoll]

I think I came in on the tail end of that, so I'm not really up on my SJW history. Refresh my memory?

[othellia]

From one of the linked summaries here:

In the world of SF/F, a respected and published writer decided she should teach others how to successfully write the "Other" when writing fiction. Someone, a PoC, then came along and said, in effect, "Hmm, you're not really doing it so well yourself, and in your latest book, here are some problems I see." Many of the writer's friends, also professional writers/editors in the SF/F genre, jumped in and started attacking the critic. The writer let this go on in her LJ and it got progressively uglier.

[dethtoll]

Wow.

See, I didn't really find F!S until maybe late 2009, I think. Might be 2010 -- whichever year Callisto's "Providence" came out.

[othellia]

Ah. I didn't find F!S until later as well, but I'd been on LJ since 2006, so I heard about stuff through similar channels.

[(Anonymous)]

"SJW" stuff got started on lj? And really SJW is still only being used for "social justice stuff I disapprove of" it's kind of fucking annoying.

[dethtoll]

I remember sfd_anon was a thing before tumblr activism/identity politics was.

[duaedesigns]

My general litmus test is "Do they go around telling actual minorities how they're Doing It Wrong and they know because they're a white American college student who's taken courses in this very thing?" And "Someone has said A or asked if it's A. First comment is correcting them that it's B. Obviously, the only correct response is to add another comment also telling them it's B, with added hostility." These can be combined too!

Example:
Commenter: I find it weird when someone refers to someone in generic "Person/character of color" when their ethnicity has already been established. When I say I'm latina, don't keep referring to me as a "person of color."
SJW 1. But POC is the generally accepted polite generic term.
SJW 2. Ugh, don't you know POC is polite and anyway you don't speak for all POC.
SJW 3. Who said you get to decide what the polite term is or not!?
SJW 4. I'm not here to educate you. WIKI LINKS.