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⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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I didn't say gay men shouldn't talk about how people write gay sex, and that's not what I mean. I'm sorry you read it that way. What I think is no individual has the right to come into a fandom space and tell the entirety of it that they are doing it wrong because of their own experience. He had a few valid points, but his overall approach and attitude ruined any credit he may have had.

But if you agreed with the author and found no problems with his piece then obviously we are just two individuals who will not agree on this point.

Perhaps his comments on fanfic should be read as "admittedly over the top emotional" as well. Sure, I think he's exaggerating a bit, but it's his personal livejournal, so he's allowed some license to rant.

I'm not going to do a content analysis to say how often one-two-three preparation and orgasm in three strokes appears in fanfic.

how often one-two-three preparation and orgasm in three strokes appears in fanfic.

I could do a similar content analysis on how often it appears in het fics, ostensibly written by straight people with direct experience.

Porn is fantasy.

Yes, and we can talk about the ways in which a given pornographic work is flawed or unrealistic.

But he's directly positing that it's women's lack of experience that's causing them to write this brand of "flawed, unrealistic" pornography.

Which is a flawed assertion in the face of the fact that heterosexual pornography - which with they would have experience - is equally flawed and unrealistic.

Well, as the first wave of sex-positive feminists pointed out, that's because few pornographic films for the straight market are directed by women.

But he's not talking about mass produced pornography for men. He's talking about amateur erotica by women for women, as am I. And in both cases, the sex described (by women, about gay men's bodies or their own bodies) is unrealistic and flawed.

Which is often because the women writing it haven't actually had sex, let's be real here.

DA

Or maybe they have and they realize it's an unrealistic fantasy and they prefer the fantasy? Anyone who knows better doesn't go looking for smut expecting realism... but plenty of them go looking for it anyway. It's escapism. It's fantasy.

Everyone knows dragons don't exist. We still love reading about them.

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