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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-25 06:55 pm

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Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-02-26 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I remember right before the first Harry Potter movie was about to come out and HP mania was bubbling over, every kid wanted to be in the Wizarding World. Heck, many adults wanted to be there to. And with the things you could do with magic, I could understand why. Compared with early 2000 tech.

Fast forward to 2014 with the technology we have today. Smart phones, tablets, texting, video face to face chatting, internet forums, social media sites like instagram, tumblr, facebook, the easy of shopping online, 3D printing, modern medicine, modern appliances, Netflix, Hulu, torrents to watch anything from anywhere and so much more.

Doesn't matter what age you are, if you had a chance to give up all the modern tech to go and live in The Wizarding World (mind you, you could bring your loved ones along) would you? The catch is, once you leave, you can't return.

I don't think I could. To me, modern tech is quickly surpassing magic as being the more amazing thing. I'd rather have robots and holograms than centaurs and spellbooks. Especially, when you consider that the Wizarding World is essentially stuck in a certain time period. Like all clocks stopped around the Edwardian time and nothing advanced much. (They are still using quill pens in Harry's time!) Think about it, in 2000, reading a newspaper where pictures moved like in the Wizarding newspapers seemed so magical and amazing. We have that now with tablets, news websites and videos. Even better, we can interact on such sites with each other in ways we could never do on a Wizarding paper.

So, I ask you, what's your answer? Magic or Tech?
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Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-02-26 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Tech. It seems that tech is constantly being upgraded and changed. While spells are just static. Also, I could snipe a wizard to death (or use a missile).
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Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[personal profile] mekkio 2014-02-26 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Could imagine how quickly the Wizarding War II would have been over if Harry's side had modern tech at their disposal? It's not like Voldemort was laying low in a bunker. Send in a drone, fire, BOOM! Tea time.

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Yah but they probably had force fields around the Malfoy Manor, like the one in the battle for hogwarts. You'd still have to organize an infiltration or something.

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
I was just thinking about that... honestly I think magic supercedes tech in a lot of ways anyway; an ALL CAPS email might simply be an oblivious uncle, and still won't have the same effect as a howler, sent very much on purpose. ;) Not to mention Floo Powder, Apparation... and I'm sure Fred and George-esque wizards have figured out ways to do their own equivalent of texting. At the same time, the form of listening to music was old fashioned for even 1960's standards, from the sounds of it, and forget digital cameras....

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Tech, for all the reasons you stated about media, connectivity, and information availability. Even when I first started reading the series around 1999, I was already thinking "You can have my computer when you pry it from my cold dead hands." I'm also betting that, while they've got physical medical advancements that are well beyond the real world, mental health treatment is an even lower priority there than it is here.

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
Tech. In fact, I'll take it a step further and say I wouldn't give up the technological age we're in now for any alternate fantasy universe that isn't, like, some analogy for heaven. I understand technology, I find it interesting, and it makes my life amazing. I don't know why I'd want to give that up.

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's a tough one but I think I might actually choose magic.

It helps that I'm kind of a luddite in general, but it is still a really tough choice. Ultimately magic is just really freaking cool though! And I think a lot of the things you can do with magic are a lot more fundamentally dramatic and strange than the things you can do with technology.
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Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-02-26 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Tech wins for me.

In the HP fics I tell myself in my head, all the Muggle-born kids lament the loss of their IPods and the ease of googling something on the internet while they're at Hogwarts.

Magic is cool, no doubt about it. And wielding it clearly involves skill and creativity. However, Muggles can make people fly! With this thing they built with their hands! I know nobody else liked the Brandon Routh Superman movie, but I love that movie, and my favorite line is when Lois asks her boyfriend how he showed up to save her, and he says, "I flew." In the plane built by human hands and ingenuity that he learned how to operate. The human. Not the magical space Jesus who can just fly already.

In my HP bedtime stories to myself, I also have the characters ruminate on the value of an item they have transfigured versus the value of an item they've made by hand--let's say a desk. They have interesting conversations.

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
I always found it interesting that one of the reasons behind the Statute of Secrecy was that "Muggles will rely too much on magic". Muggles seem to be doing just fine without magic, what with the constant innovation and the blistering pace of technological advancement (especially from the Industrial Revolution onwards). Maybe the magical world's scared that it's not as superior as it thinks it is. Poor, helpless Muggles, indeed.
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Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-02-27 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
That's the sense I get from it too. Also that there's a willful ignorance on the part of magical people.

I mean, Arthur's not stupid and yet after years and years and years in a department in which he deals with Muggles, he still can't pronounce electricity. Really?
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Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[personal profile] othellia 2014-02-26 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I choose tech, but not just for tech eventually outstripping magic reasons.

The thing that always bugged me about Harry Potter - and most fantasy books in general - is the emphasis on the "chosen." Not the people who work their asses off. Not the people who have a goal and ambition. Not even the people who just want to get through life and try to find some happiness along the way.

When I was young, I loved the idea of the "chosen" because, like so many others, I liked putting myself in the "chosen" group. To have that special something about you that makes you better and different, whatever that something is.

Technology is the exact opposite of that. I mean, you still have to deal with affordability and classism, but so much of technology is about giving new powers and opportunities to everyone, regardless of background. So as much I as used to love magic, I think I'm always going to be technology from here on out.

Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

(Anonymous) 2014-02-26 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
Tech. Only one side's figured out that whole "global information and communication network" thing. Hell, their most efficient method of sending messages in the 90s was still owl post.
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Re: Harry Potter: Magic vs. Technology

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-02-26 05:05 pm (UTC)(link)
As much as I think magic is damn cool and I'd love to have it, if it meant taking it with HP-verse rules, restrictions, and yes, the society, I will stick to technology.

I view HP-verse magic as to ridged for my liking, I'd prefer something a bit freer in it's function. Unless you promised me goddess level magic powers that would mean I could blithely ignore most of Wizarding society and do my own out-of-the-box magical R&D and invent descent magical equivalents for technology that it seems JKR liked hinting were possible but never could actually come up with something better to answer TV and internet.