[ SECRET POST #2614 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2614 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Americans]


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04. http://oi58.tinypic.com/2a5hg1g.jpg
[underage nudity, fanart stuff, harry potter]


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05. http://abload.de/img/blue1iqs99.png
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08. [SPOILERS for Thor: The Dark World]



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09. [SPOILERS for True Blood]



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10. [SPOILERS for Kill la Kill]



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11. [SPOILERS for Sons of Anarchy]



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12. [SPOILERS for the Lego Movie]



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13. [WARNING for incest]

[How I Live Now]


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14. [WARNING for suicide]

[Robert E. Howard]

















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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

it's problematic to focus on them too much

What?

[(Anonymous)]

Er. Not sure what your objection is there, although I'm very open to the idea that I said something stupid (don't like using problematic in that way in the first place either).

What I mean is that there's a tendency for certain people (especially MRA types) to talk a lot about the prevalence of false rape accusations, and use that to make arguments against the idea of investigating rape in general and all that kind of thing. But it's wrong to treat those instances of false accusations as normal, or to assume that when someone is accused of rape that's going on - to assign them too much statistical prominence, I guess.

Of course when they happen they're wrong and no one should make a false rape accusation, I'm not trying to say it doesn't matter when they happen. But they don't happen much and treating them as normative is wrong and implies a lot of wrong assumptions.

Does that make sense? I'm sorry if I'm talking nonsense, I haven't had much to eat today.

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt, but seems to me that focusing on them (provided you don't do the MRA thing of acting like they're WAY more important than actual rape to the point where actual rape gets kind of left by the wayside) IS important, because the more attention is drawn to the ACTUAL rate of incidence, the more histrionic and crazy the MRAs look when they flagrantly lie/exaggerate/invent unrealistically high numbers and act like it's more prevalent or more important an issue than actual rape. Flagrant lying/exaggeration/invention of unrealistically high numbers of any crime is a bad thing, and imo it's a valuable activity to get the truth about those things out there.

Also, I'm uncomfortable with the way some people go "Well, it doesn't happen as often as actual rape, so it isn't important and we shouldn't bother paying attention to it." Um, yes, perjury/attempted perjury/deliberate attempts to ruin someone's life by falsely accusing them of a terrible crime SHOULD have attention paid to it, and it's a very terrible argument to say that because something isn't as prevalent as another related crime it isn't important at all. That's the kind of reasoning that's used to discount victims of sexual assault who don't happen to fit the stereotypical profile---are we going to say that "corrective rape" of lesbians isn't "as big a deal" as rape of straight women for whatever reason the straight woman's rapist has, because it doesn't happen as often? No person of any decency would say that.

[(Anonymous)]

Also, I'm uncomfortable with the way some people go "Well, it doesn't happen as often as actual rape, so it isn't important and we shouldn't bother paying attention to it." Um, yes, perjury/attempted perjury/deliberate attempts to ruin someone's life by falsely accusing them of a terrible crime SHOULD have attention paid to it, and it's a very terrible argument to say that because something isn't as prevalent as another related crime it isn't important at all. That's the kind of reasoning that's used to discount victims of sexual assault who don't happen to fit the stereotypical profile---are we going to say that "corrective rape" of lesbians isn't "as big a deal" as rape of straight women for whatever reason the straight woman's rapist has, because it doesn't happen as often? No person of any decency would say that.

AYRT and let me just say that I don't think this and was not in any way trying to say that it's not important when it does happen and that we should just straight-up ignore it. It's super important when it does happen, like you say.

[ibbity]

Ayrt, forgot to log in before. I know you weren't saying that, I just thought I'd toss it in because sooner or later it always seems to get said in discussions about this topic. Wasn't implying that you thought that, you seem like a sensible person.

[(Anonymous)]

You make a lot of good points, anon.

[darkmanifest]

I have no problem with devoting 2-10% of the conversation about rape to false allegations. The issue is how often people, particularly MRAs, want to devote 90% of the conversation to it, when that 90% belongs to rape victims, which to me seems like a staggeringly bigger problem than 2% of people who have a vanishingly small chance of even being more than inconvenienced based on false accusations, considering only 25% of all rape reports, real or not, ever lead to arrest, let alone trial and conviction.