[ SECRET POST #2616 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2616 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think this is fair at all, even as a GOT hater. His writing (hopefully) won't affect anyone else's fantasy writing, besides I suppose a bunch of fan copycats? But I do feel sad if people think of Game of Thrones when they think of the fantasy genre. To each their own, and all, but I hate to think of GRRM as an icon in the genre.

[(Anonymous)]

Of course it won't influence many fantasy writers beyond a smidge (apart from as you say the wannabes), but it WILL affect who gets published.

[(Anonymous)]

There is that info going round that publishers are growing more reluctant about long epic fantasy settings because of how GRRM is screwing his publisher over with what he's doing with GoT right now.

So, yes, a part of the fantasy genre is going to go out of style for a while because of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing of value will be lost, as far as I'm concerned. I never was a fan of the loooooooooooong epic fantasy book series, at all. Prolly a failing on my part, but I could just never do it. I haven't even made it all the way though Narnia or LOTR yet.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but some people liked those. They didn't deserve to have their hobby ruined by GoT/GRRM.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Plenty of the multi-volume epics can still be found in the remainders bin, nonny. Barring that, there are zillions of fanfics that are a billion words long, so I don't see how you are in any way at a loss?

[(Anonymous)]

But that it's not a big loss for you personally doesn't mean it isn't for anybody else.

[(Anonymous)]

Try Smashwords.

[truxillogical]

IMHO, there's a lot more shifting the wind to those sails than just aSoIaF. There's teen fantasy fiction emerging as a hugely lucrative genre (and generally, teen fiction is most lucrative if it stays down to three or four books that can, hopefully, be published within a year or two at most of each other, because teens are only teens for so long), instead of a small niche market. There's the popularity of quick urban fantasy series like True Blood (with a nice, ready-made audience coming from the older teens). There just plain burn-out, which happens to the genre at least once a decade or so anyway. GRRM has some influence, perhaps, but it can't all be squarely laid at his feet. If anything, I would think the audience-spanning success of GoT would make some publishers more likely to take a risk on a new fantasy author. Although, no, they probably wouldn't be willing to risk a new author with a big long series, but that has almost always been the case. Most writers had to make their bones with short stories at the very least before they got trusted with that kind of investment.

[diet_poison]

ecause of how GRRM is screwing his publisher over with what he's doing with GoT right now.

What is he doing to his publisher? /curious

[(Anonymous)]

Other than taking five years in between to actually write the novels? That alone is probably worthy of a massive headache. GRRM has already even set out the names for the books and says he'll end it with the seventh but the possibility of an eighth is still there.

It's one of those 'shit or get off the pot' deals.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd add "taking 6 years to write a novel that he claimed, back in 2005, was largely finished and would be out in a year."

I don't hold out much hope of the series being finished before about 2025, and by that time, half the people who are fans now probably won't even care. People's interests change over time, yet Martin is acting as if he expects his fans to be every bit as thrilled to get A Dream of Spring sometime in the mid-2020s as if it had come out twenty years before. In a way, that seems almost as entitled to me as the fans who piss and moan that GRRM "owes" them the next book Right Now.