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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-02 03:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2616 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read the books, but they are meant to be a kind of retro European medieval world, with the sexual politics and all. Without that I don't think a lot of people would have a frame of reference, and it would be a much less mainstream book. Yes, I think that would be really interesting, but I don't think it means that someone is necessarily sexist just for writing a world where women are treated similarly to medieval Europe. However, other things you mention could be sexist.

As for the show, yes, it does cater for the normative male sexual gaze more than the het female. This isn't a dealbreaker for me, because it also depends on how the female characters are treated, which is reasonably humanising except as I said, the sex workers often get treated by the camera as pleasure objects without much independent motivation. Of course I could still pick apart the rest of the show, but I'm not feeling extreme nausea over it. YMMV. As for the violence, eh, the Ramsay torture scenes were boooooring to me, but as for the rest, I don't think it tends to gloss over or glamourise what was an essential part of feudal times for the frame of reference we have for medieval history. I get quite annoyed when shows do that, actually.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
SA *Also, the Dany falling in love with her rapist thing, I dunno how the book did it, I wasn't too sickened by the tv version but am open to arguments about it. I guess I see all marriages in societies where women had/have no right to refuse consent, or even to choose their partner, as legalised rape. Women did survive without choices by often coming to care for their husband/abuser. Did the tv show explain this? Not very well.