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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-02 03:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2616 ]


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ariakas: (BFFs)

Re: which country has the worlds best special forces

[personal profile] ariakas 2014-03-03 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
insofar as women would get used and then pretty much told thanks for your service but we're not going to recognise you or provide any of the benefits now fuck off

Yeah this was a thing that happened in the US in the 90s too. JSOC absolutely was using women, but as "contractors" or "attached" to (but not actually part of) units to skirt the rules limiting their involvement. Hey, go into deadly operations but don't take any of the credit it or even get paid extra for it like the men do, because fuck you! Shouldn't have that vagina.

Though the rationale in the US at least was that letting on that their constituents "daughters" were in "danger" would be political suicide for elected officials, so women could never be "officially" involved in combat. In their defense, the ultraconservative morlocks there really are that bad, and already whinging about the "feminization" of the military, which takes away men's "purpose". (I need to dig up the screed by a former officer coming out against women in combat, not for any practical reason, but because to kill was the "goal" of being a man just as having babies was the goal of being a woman, and if women were allowed in combat it would be like men having babies. He concluded by threatening women with rape - by the "bad guys" of course - if they "disobeyed" men on this.)

For all that the USSR conclusively proved that women absolutely do have a place in combat - even if it's not exactly the same as men - people are still fucking batshit about this.
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Re: which country has the worlds best special forces

[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-03-03 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
The 'but women might get raped' thing is always darkly amusing to me.

I guess some men really don't like recognising the fact that they're not eactly immune to it. And depending it can be incredibly common. I mean the statistics from the DRC are shocking(80% of male combatants captured), and it's not like it's a problem exclusive to east africa.