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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-03 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2617 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2617 ⌋

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Notes:

As a note, social justice is not a fandom. Tumblr itself is not a fandom.

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 051 secrets from Secret Submission Post #374.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: UGH

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
Anon who posted the failfandomanon link

The absolutely bizarre thing is someone on fandom_wank or clairvoyantwank even guessed that after the fallout from the shit that went down in the Harry Potter fandom, he would probably try Supernatural or another fandom with a relatively large fanbase who might have some proportion of people disposed to his tendency to make sweeping, unsupported, self-aggrandizing statements about himself and his life.

I guess that saying about the leopard and the spots is probably true here.

Re: UGH

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2014-03-04 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. It was in the fw link in my post. I was so tempted to check your link for updates but thankfully I resisted. >:(

eta: okay i must know if your link has anything about the shooting/turimel's reaction to news of the shooting?
Edited 2014-03-04 05:21 (UTC)

Re: UGH

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
It does, yeah. Honestly? Thanfiction's the one person that survives with just an ankle shot? I can see why turimel's suspicio-meter went into overdrive.

She's been badly hurt by Andy to the point of some probably counterproductive obsessiveness over tracking down every movement made by Andy, and it really doesn't help that she won't just accept Thanfiction's choice of personal pronouns. (I guess she thinks if she calls him "he" as he wants, she's handing him another victory.)

Re: UGH

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2014-03-04 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah if I'm being honest based on Andy's history it is really hard not to look at that situation and not see how easy it is to interpret it as being pretty damn shady or at least the results of his manipulations backfiring and want to blame him for the whole situation. Intellectually I know I don't know what really happened and my perception of everything is third hand at best but instinctively I do think he at the very, very least exacerbated what went down.

The pronoun issue really bothers me but like you mention turimel was a victim of a compulsive liar and manipulator who has claimed so many different kind of identities to assert control and escape consequences. Which makes her seeming transphobia read more like an unfortunate but unintended side effect of a reaction to what she sees as another manipulative tactic on Andy's part. But, no, that's not helping her case and if anything lends credence to Andy's insistence that he is being unfairly persecuted and may even be giving him leverage in the tumblr community.

but idk for me it's hard to give a crap about turimel's not so stellar level of involvement and minor offenses when you have a legitimately harmful person trying to get emotionally and mentally disturbed teenagers call him for help.

Re: UGH

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Eh, for me the issue with her [aside from the fact her obsession over following Thanfiction's movements is getting a little creepy] is that people have point blank told her that it upset and hurt them that she was disrespecting a trans* person's pronouns, even if he is a shitty person, and her response was, basically, "I don't give a fuck".

If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't give a crap...but as it stands she's ignoring the fact she's hurting unrelated people for a very petty reason that [let's face it] doesn't effect Thanfiction at all and *that's* why I can't quite bring myself to not care.

Re: UGH

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Andy isn't even trans. It's just a new con.