[ SECRET POST #2617 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2617 ⌋

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Comments

[lyriel]

"Someone might just not like a set of tropes that shows up far, far more often in media as being applied to one gender than the other."

Yes. I've been thinking about another aspect of this question, and I'll try to articulate it as clearly as I can:

I prefer things that are plot-driven. Male characters are given plot-driven storylines, while female characters are placed in situations where they sit around talking about inane subjects.

If a show/movie truly passed the Bechdel Test in terms of female characters talking about **the plot**, I would happily watch that, whether the plot is a detective story or whatever. But I do not enjoy watching female characters sitting around nattering about stereotypically "feminine" topics like romance, babies, weddings, shopping, etc. I'd sooner watch paint dry. I *do* enjoy romance in some contexts, but not in cases where it's irrelevant to the larger plot and seems shoehorned-in for the sake of pandering to female viewers and their supposed interests.

Male characters are interesting because they get to do things, not just engage in context-free navel-gazing about their personal lives and their feelings.

I'm not saying that plot-driven themes and character-driven themes are mutually exclusive. But female characters interrupting the flow of the story to talk about weddings and babies or their latest bad date is not character development, it's pandering to a very stereotyped idea of what female viewers want to see and hear.

I'm a female viewer, and I want to see the characters solving that murder or fighting that bad guy or whatever.

***I don't want female characters who are used solely as a love-interest, to introduce a romance element into a show.*** Frankly, I think that a lot of canon female characters ARE Mary Sues, or they're used as just something for the male characters to react to, not fully-fledged characters in their own right. And that's not interesting to watch.

Male writers/creators of media don't understand that women ARE willing to watch action, sci-fi, thrillers, et cetera, and they don't need to lure us in with subplots about weddings and shopping.