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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-08 03:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2622 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2622 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-08 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does the author's intent matter? People are constantly hassling poor portrayals of female character where the creators had nothing but good intentions. Why wouldn't it work the other way around?

I don't give a fuck what Urobutcher thinks or what he wanted, Madoka comes across as pretty feminist to me. I mean shit, her mum is the breadwinner and her dad is a stay-at-home dad and this is all treated as perfectly normal and acceptable. That shouldn't be impressive but it is.
dreemyweird: (murky)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-03-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it is a combination of the authorial intent and the actual characterization. If EITHER of these is non-feminist, then the work is non-feminist. Same goes for any other message/idea. Though sometimes I can accept the in-universe logic and see some characterizations/plotlines the way I wouldn't see them in real life.

But IA when it comes to people who don't care what the authors say. I don't get it when somebody goes all like "Johnlock (Castiel, whatever non-authorial-intent-compatible ship) is canon" only to turn around and say that something's not feminist/not pro-LGBTA+ because the author of the canon did not intend for it to be this way. Like... no.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-09 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
What do you do in situations where you can't find out what the author intended?
dreemyweird: (murky)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-03-09 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
I take guesses! And I consider my knowledge of the canon source too limited to judge certain aspects of it (e.g. whether it was intended to be feminist or not).