[ SECRET POST #310 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #310 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 231 secrets from Secret Submission Post #045.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, [ 1 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] too big, [ 1 ] rant of extreme hate, [ 1 2 ] people who need to learn to comment; if there is no NEW secret in the image, it might as well be a repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Monday, November 12th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[yume-no-kage.livejournal.com]

Aaaand again we go with the generalizations. You aren't reading a single word I'm typing, are you, except for a choice phrase or two that you can seize upon and try to nitpick to death or turn against me in some outlandish fashion.

Would you consider your comments as bashing myself, since you are so against the community I am a Mod of? I haven't bashed you at all. In fact, I've tried my utmost to be polite. Can you say the same?

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so you want someone who is a member of that community? Well here's one. And it is a hive-mind, of the worst sort. It promotes ill will in the fandom and although it might make a few improvements in people's work here and there, you can bet that it's stopped a hell of a lot of other people from contributing to the fandom at all.

Ranting about whatever is all well and good. We've all had those "here look at this badfic isn't it hilarious" conversations. But I, personally, keep them as conversations on MSN. They don't go anywhere public. No author can be rooting around and find them and end up feeling like crap.

At the end of the day it's like bitching behind someone's back at school. You might think it's funny, but all you're doing is making them feel like shit and making everyone else who might not agree with you take up the herd mentality and lie and say "Wordy McWord with a side of Word" because they don't want to be ostracized too. And yeah, you can say it's just for fun, and you can say it doesn't effect this person or this person or this person, but how the fuck can you count out the people it does effect? You can't.

If you can't say anything nice? Try not saying anything at all.

[yume-no-kage.livejournal.com]

Have I ever said a single mean thing to you in all the time I've been in the comm? Even before I was a Mod? I don't even know who you are because you insist on posting anon, and despite the fact that I and the other mods have repeatedly stated that we want you to talk to us when you're unhappy, and have listed our contact info.

I've disagreed with members of the comm before. Hell, I've disagreed with the other Mods before, on numerous occasions. Even if there is a general opinion about something, we're still people, with our own thoughts and opinions on things. If you disagree with something, speak up for heaven's sake. It's a rant community. People post their opinions there. It's not like what we talk about is set as the fandom standard, at least in my opinion. People can ignore it, after all, we're only one community in the entire KH fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

I never said I was one of the people effected by some of the things said in the comm. I'm not unhappy - to be honest, I could care less. I'm only really a member for the lulz. But when you claim to think it doesn't effect anyone, I feel the need to speak up. I do know of people that it has effected in the past. I know people that hate the fact it even exists. I know people who, although never directly targeted, have had to actively block KHFFR from their browsers so they can continue to be happily involved in fandom. So the source of my 'unhappiness' is that the comm still exists. Tell me that's an email you'd respond well to.

In truth it's not just KHFFR that does this - the wankmeme (although that's pretty much dead now, thankfully), the sporking comms, etc. I tend to lump them all together though, considering the regular contributing members at KHFFR.

I'm sure you have disagreed with members before. I have too. But it doesn't help that the overall image on the comment threads is either a list of "Word" reponses or "IAWTP". KHFFR has six hundred members - have you never thought about the fact that out of those six hundred, you get less than a hundred of them responding regularly and generally agreeing on things - or being confident enough to disagree. What about the other five hundred? It's great to say "if you disagree, speak up" but when there's a close band group of regulars constantly saying "yes" to things, it's probably terrifying to step up and say "no."

And just to let you know: the few times I've disagreed and spoken up? I've been called a troll. Not that it particularly bothered me, but if my disagreement is just going to be passed off as lulz stirring or flames, then there's no point in me bothering to give it. So I don't.

Yes, you are one comm. I don't really understand how you manage to effect the fandom as much as you do - I didn't even know what the hell "KHFFR" was until I'd been in the fandom for over six months - but the point is that you do effect the fandom, and, considering your reaction here, probably a lot more than you realise.