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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-15 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2629 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2629 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fine with the part of the fandom that just enjoys the movie and their headcanons etc, but two kinds of fans annoy me lately:

1.) The ones that are convinced that Disney secretly ships Elsa/Anna and it#s somehow canon and whatnot (as in, they justdon't ship them but are convinced Disney wanted them to)

2.) The ones looking down on all the other Disney movies "with princesses who only want to marry a prince!1!1!" and declare Frozen the most superior movie that was ever superior, because FEMINISM! No other Disney movie was ever in the slightest bit feminist EVUR!!!
(I actually let this 'article' speak here, because I found it interesting for the most part:
https://medium.com/disney-and-animation/7c0bbc7252ef )

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, that article is garbage. The author's lack of viewing comprehension + empathy grosses me out.

Read this instead

http://namebrandlindsay.com/2014/02/04/the-problem-with-the-problem-with-false-feminism-a-strongly-worded-rebuttal/

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I read both of those articles for the first time and really, the one you linked makes good points but I also think the first one has some value? I mean, the second one is just as much "ugh, I hate this, this is stupid and it's so obvious why it's stupid why don't you see wargarbl" as the first one (just with added condescending gifs that make all the "I don't want to hate on the author" lines in the beginning look like a joke.).

I think Frozen is a feminist movie, but not without flaws and I'm annoyed by people who put all the other Disney princesses down in favor of it.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really care about the tone of either article, I was more concerned with the points they were trying to make.

I agree that Frozen has flaws, but the "Problem" article doesn't hit on any of them.

>I'm annoyed by people who put all the other Disney princesses down in favor of it.

True, but I guess that's a problem with some of the fans, and not a problem with the movie itself. Also, I just hate it in general when people try and make feminist movies compete against each other (frozen fans and haters alike have both been doing this) - if that's not an act of self sabotage, than I don't know what is.
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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-03-16 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
If you want a rebuttal that is well-said and not just a long lineage of "ugh, I hate this, this is stupid and it's so obvious why it's stupid why don't you see wargarbl", read this one:

http://feministfiction.com/2014/02/07/why-frozen-isnt-false-feminism/