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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-15 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2629 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2629 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
it actually brings up a good point, though. There's honestly no proof she's engaged, it's a meta thing that actually is pointing out that, uh, no, he doesn't actually care.

Meanwhile, the trolls see the mutual attraction between Anna and Kristoff and probably think this girl's politically engaged.

As well, you missed the part where they say: Everyone’s a bit of a fixer-upper
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2014-03-16 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't miss that part at all. It doesn't make it better. (And it doesn't change the fact that the reason they gave for her being a "fixer-upper" was her being engaged.)

I hate seeing people being comically forced together while they protest, even if they end up together eventually. It's just so very gross, and it's something people do in real life if there's a guy and a girl who are friends. ("Ooooh, you're so cute together!" "Yes, but we're not interested." "Oooh, you don't really know that." "Yes, I do." "Give it tiiime." Gross.)

It doesn't bring up a good point. Kristoff says "engaged." And they immediately start plotting how to break off the engagement. "No proof" is also kind of a gross statement (how many girls say "I've got a boyfriend" to get someone to lay off? Do they have to prove it? Does it even matter?).

On a personal level, this movie came out shortly after my best friend's fiance left him for a guy she'd known for two weeks. That song is the reason he didn't go see it when it came out. "Well, sure she's engaged, but there's chemistry with this guy, screw the engagement!" was a little too close to the bone (nevermind that people can have "chemistry" with a lot of folks and acting on it is totally different).

But primarily, no, I don't care if we're pulling the romantic comedy "It's all okay because it's a movie and it works out in the end" card. Shoving people together while they say no, and dismissing reasons given, then outright plotting to break up a couple you know nothing about are just really gross, uncomfortable behaviors, musical whimsy (and an honestly lousy song) aside.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Anna's "engagement" in the movie was to the first boy she'd ever met after knowing him for a few hours. The situation is not remotely equivalent to what happened to your friend, although I can understand why the song would have struck a sour chord. Trust me on this one though, as horrible as a broken engagement is, it is so much better that this happened now than after the wedding. The fact that this happened at all is a strong indication that theirs would not have been a happy marriage.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2014-03-16 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
it is so much better that this happened now than after the wedding

I know everybody meant well when they said that, but it's just a horrible thing to hear. Honestly, it makes it sound like, "Well, you never can reeeeally know or trust anyone, this is always a risk, good job it happened now.

Anna's "engagement" in the movie was to the first boy she'd ever met after knowing him for a few hours.

But they didn't know that. Absolutely her engagement was a terrible idea. But all the trolls knew was that she was engaged. Kristoff's statements didn't bug me at all because he at least had and got more information. They didn't know or care about the circumstances of the engagement, only that it was blocking the way of their OTP.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-16 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
You're projecting. Anna met a guy, and within twelve hours, barely knowing him, was engaged.

The reason they gave wasn't her being engaged. It was that they could see both of them mutually attracted to each other and were denying that shit.

Sorry for your friend, but your projecting is gross and fucking stupid because you have a personal problem.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2014-03-16 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
What a charming person you are.

The trolls didn't know the circumstances of her engagement. Just that it got in the way of their OTP.

Lots of people think they can see when couples are "mutually attracted to each other." It doesn't make pushing two protesting people together any less of a dick move. (Nevermind that a mutual attraction doesn't always mean something you should act on.)