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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-17 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2631 ]


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Re: Religion

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 07:57 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I think this part does mean I'm not an atheist, though: I couldn't honestly say that I believed there was no force out there that might be called a deity in some form or another.

I don't believe there is one/more, but I don't necessarily believe there isn't one/more either. I just don't know what it/they is/are. I lean more towards theist than atheist agnostic, though if it turns out atheists are right I'm probably not going to be overly disappointed. (Well, at all really, but that's because oblivion probably doesn't allow for much in the way of disappointment). There are a few religions out there that I find more plausible than others, as I said, just none to the extent that I could honestly call it belief.

I don't think agnosticism necessarily means uncertainty, you know? Sometimes it's maybe just 'acknowledgement of confirmation pending' instead. I'm naturally deficient in belief in the absence of definitive proof, but I can roll with it if the universe turns out to be a different shape than I previously thought it was.
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Re: Religion

[personal profile] cassandraoftroy 2014-03-18 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this is a definitional problem. An atheist doesn't necessarily need to claim that no gods conclusively exist -- rather, he simply sees no reason to believe in any. When you say, I'm naturally deficient in belief in the absence of definitive proof, I see that as pretty much the definition of atheism. An atheist withholds intellectual assent from god-claims because they are unconvincing. Going he extra step of asserting certainly that no gods exist is not something that all atheists do, nor is it necessary to qualify for atheism.

Agnosticism isn't actually incompatible with atheism (or theism) as a position, because they are answers to different questions. Gnosticism/agnosticism is about knowledge, and theism/atheism is about belief. An agnostic atheist, for example, makes no claim to know whether any gods exist or not, but has no belief in their existence. A gnostic atheist, on the other hand, claims to know that no gods exist. Both of them are atheists because they have no belief in the existence of gods, but only one is making a claim of certain knowledge.