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⌈ Secret Post #2635 ⌋

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[Casshern (film)]

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[cosplay, Anthony Misiano]

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03. http://i.imgur.com/4s3vCwo.png
[link for nudity/etc. naked mpreg snape with boobs.]

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04. http://i.imgur.com/aQi1eUV.png
[link for nudity (OP requested it; not really sexual though. probably would've been ok, considering the one below ↓)]

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08. [posted twice]

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[Josh Radnor]

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10. [SPOILERS for Sherlock]

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11. [SPOILERS for Grimm]

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12. [SPOILERS for Twisted]

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13. [WARNING for ephebophilia]

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14. [WARNING for suicide]

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Not 14, but 16 would be fine. That's when kids finish compulsory education here and can get their first job.

Then 16 should be the age of sexual consent as well, right?

What I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't have different standards for different "adult" things. It should be the same across the board.

Why? Not every "adult" thing is "adult" in the same way.

Sex can result in pregnancy, STDs, and other serious consequences. If you think teenagers as young as 14 can have sex with people who are WAY older, I don't see why you think they couldn't get an apartment, have a full-time job, or join the military.

Unless of course MATURITY isn't the factor for attraction here.

What I'm trying to say is that you shouldn't have different standards for different "adult" things. It should be the same across the board.

Not sure where you're from, but in the US it absolutely doesn't work that way. Employment age is 14. Marriage age is 14-21 (varies from state to state; the younger end of the age range requires judicial approval, parental approval, and/or for the bride to be pregnant). School-leaving age is 16-18 (varies from state to state). Driving age is 16-18 (ditto). Age of consent is 16-18 (ditto). Legal age to join the military is 17 (with parental consent) or 18 (without parental consent). Legal age to buy tobacco is 18. Legal age to purchase or to star in pornography is 18. Voting age is 18. Legal drinking age is 21. Legal age to become president is 35.

There's simply no single line between childhood and adulthood in America's legal system. Which is as it should be, considering the wide range of rights and responsibilities that the above activities--and many others besides--encompass.

I notice that a lot of those age ranges are 16-18, including the age of consent in most states, but the age to get married is 14 in certain circumstances. Why is that "as it should be"? What makes a 14-year-old mature enough to marry when she had sex and got pregnant two years before the age of consent? It seems to me that would only be digging the hole deeper.

I frankly don't see the reason in differentiating any of these activities (except, of course, the last, because that is a position of authority over the society as a whole, and not just taking responsibility for your own actions). If the state thinks it's perfectly okay to allow 14-year-olds to get married, then they should allow them all the other privileges and responsibilities afforded to adults in the culture. Marriage is certainly a major life decision and isn't something that a child should enter into unless we're convinced they're mature enough to handle it. It's not any less of a huge decision than entering into any other contract.

AYRT

Yeah, I almost added a bit about how a little more standardization wouldn't be terrible regarding the legal marriage age, since that one's pretty ridiculous, but my comment was already pretty long. So now you get to read it here instead. :-P

And it's nice that you agree about the presidency thing, but having that be your single exception is kind of absurdly reductive. There's a huge difference between, for instance, being mature enough to get a part-time job working in a grocery store and being mature enough to join the army. Or between being mature enough to make the decision to have sex for personal reasons and being mature enough to make the decision to have sex for money. Or between being mature enough for a part-time job and being mature enough to leave school and start your career. And so forth.

I think I may have given the impression that I meant teens shouldn't be allowed to have sex at all before legal adulthood, and I didn't mean to if that's the case. I just said sex because I assumed others would know it pertained to the issue of age of consent, and the relationships between adults and teens.

That said, it's not reductive if you've considered what the age of consent is actually there for. It's not to stop people who are not yet considered adults from having sex entirely. It's there to stop people who are already considered adults from taking advantage of the inexperience, vulnerability, and dependence of those who are not.

Generally, teens can have sex with their peers with little to no penalty (the little penalty there is is too harsh, in my opinion), but the age of consent is there to separate the kids from the adults just like all the other privileges and responsibilities the adults have that kids don't. Some of those teenagers may truly be ready to partake in intercourse with an adult, but that hard line is meant to tell everyone when they're supposed to start taking on the role of a free, independent person. If they're not free or independent in all the other senses, and they're having a sexual relationship with someone who is, there is a significant power imbalance there just by virtue of the fact that one party is legally considered free and independent, and the other is not.

If sex as an adult is presented BEFORE the rest of the adult package, this causes accountability problems as well as issues pertaining to the autonomy of the person who is still under the thumb of all the adults in their life. Until they can move freely as an adult, they shouldn't have sex with adults. They should stick to other teens until they hit that adult mark.

Is my position a little more clear now?

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