[ SECRET POST #2637 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2637 ⌋

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Comments

[dreemyweird]

Yeah, and I think many of the characters were explicitly based on people of certain cultural backgrounds (e.g. the dwarves) - and not PoC, either. But I admit I'm not much of a specialist on the whole of the Tolkien 'verse, there might be someone there who could be non-white.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I will concede that if you're fancasting, say, Haleth and the Haladin, or Ulfang and the Easterlings, it'd make sense to use POC actors -- but all the Silmarillion fancasts of these characters I've seen do use POC actors. Elves and the first two houses of the Edain, with their grey eyes and blonde hair and pale skin that keep getting mentioned repeatedly? Dwarves that seem based on Norse mythology? Never pinged as anything but white to me.

[gondremark]

The image makes me think Tolkien, but OP's statement that book characters "only get a vague description" is giving me second thoughts. Tolkien's descriptions are anything but vague. Ever notice how almost every canon-true illustration of Maedhros is recognisably the same guy? There's a very good reason for that, and it's Tolkien's deft use of adjectives.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, now that you mention it, that is weird. It's not just named characters, but he also had a tendency to provide physical descriptions across the board of entire groups of people. The Noldor are like this and the Vanyar are like this and the Numenoreans are like this but the Rohirrim are like this. Now, that's not to say that you can't headcanon individual, unnamed characters however you choose, but it's not weird at all for someone to have a certain image of these characters given the way they were written.

[gondremark]

Yeah. If I'm told that a character is a Vanyarin Elf and another is Rohirric I'm going to imagine both those characters as having pale skin and blonde hair, because that's what Tolkien has described as default for the Vanyar and Rohirrim, and if someone's going to call me racist for that, well, I'll just have to go dig up some quotations and shuffle all the blame to Tolkien himself.