[ SECRET POST #2637 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2637 ⌋

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Comments

[tabaqui]

I guess it doesn't me, since i, as a white person, would be called out for writing that if my characters were black. If i wrote the black stereotype of the pimp, i would certainly be criticized, despite *that* kind of thing being pretty much a staple of *my* childhood tv viewing (i grew up in the seventies).

I mean - i was pretty aware as a kid writing stories that the stuff on tv wasn't *real*.

[darkmanifest]

Did you also think the news wasn't real? That history, social studies, and current events classes in school weren't real? Because that's also where many of my impressions about Le Normal American Experience came from, not from stereotypes in fiction, but from very limited representation in real stories.

I mean, in any case, if ever I've written a white straight middle-class American white character and some white straight middle-class Americans take umbrage with my portrayal, I'd take it seriously. I just find it highly unlikely to happen because of the reasons stated above. But anything's possible.

[tabaqui]

In my experience, the news doesn't show anything remotely *normal* - that's why it's *news*. And we rarely read about mundane, everyday people in our history books.

[darkmanifest]

We had quite different experiences of those things, then. Tons of events on the news that weren't murders and scandals - "everyday living" kind of topics only really relevant to certain groups of people. And as for history, most historical figures were mundane folk who inadvertently ended up famous - that was hammered home a lot, that ~anybody~ can start out a peanut farmer and end up president. Only that "anybody" didn't look like me and my friends.

[tabaqui]

We watched the news during dinner at my house, and what stands out the most clearly for me are things like the Vietnam war, and the hostage crisis (and that 'peanut farmer' being castigated for how it went). Maybe there were 'everyday living' things on early-morning shows or something, but we didn't watch that and hell, we only got three channels, anyway.

Sure, they were mundane except for how they *weren't* - i can't think of a single historical figure that makes me go 'wow, just like me!'.

Eh. Our perspectives are different, but it's all good. I'm off to bed, me - feel free to reply, but i won't see it until morning.

[darkmanifest]

I'm an eighties baby, so by the nineties when I was growing up, most news was very fluffy compared to earlier generations. Mostly I remember local events, bitching about gas prices, and who the president was banging, that sort of thing.

I really liked Harriet Tubman - she wasn't exactly like me, of course, but she was a black female hero, unlike the scads of white male heroes I was used to. And she didn't die horribly in the end, which was a huge plus.

Thanks for the discussion, and I hope you sleep well. ^^