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⌈ Secret Post #2638 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This - and more importantly, men don't spend their entire lives plotting rape and murder.

No, they don't spend their lives planning it, but somehow it seems to happen a fucking lot of the time. For something as simple as wanting to leave a guy, he can decide she doesn't get to live, or laughing at the size of his dick, or preferring someone else's dick to his, these are offenses for a fucking lot of men that seem to make murder and rape totally okay "in the heat of the moment". "She drank too much", "she wouldn't stop doing drugs", "she was passed out and my friends were laughing at me for not doing it", "her boyfriend was in our house holding my kid"....these are real excuses vomited up by these worms at the police station afterwards when their rage dies down. It happens in the USA and everywhere in the world. So no, maybe they don't plan it, but it seems to happen all the fucking same.

If I turn a corner on a street or go into a party I've been invited to and see strange men standing in groups, is it right that my first thought is generally whether I should 'risk' it or just leave? It's not right. Especially since I'm certain that's not a man's reaction when he's faced with groups of women he's never met before.

I work with a giant of a 27 year old man. He lives in a vastly different world than I do. When he walks down a street at night, he never looks over his shoulder. When he walks to his car in a deserted parking lot, he's never nervous. He walks into parties without ever worrying about who's there or whether he should have come with someone.

Men can be raped and assaulted, absolutely, but it's NOT the same as it is for women.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed with this. If you're a grown woman, you will have experienced fear of sexual assault being committed against you, even if it was just the vaguest of worries. Most men will never go through that. Theirs is a confidence you can't gain.

New anon speaking

[(Anonymous)]

I am a grown woman and I have experienced that fear, but it was only that. I don't have a car, so over the years I've trusted men to drive me places occasionally. Strangers, acquaintances and coworkers, bosses: men who had nothing to lose by taking advantage of me. I was afraid sometimes, but none of them ever did anything. Now I can't help but be less afraid because just as other women's experience has trained them to be, my experience has trained me not to be. I can't believe this is as rare as everyone I know says it is. I'm completely average. I'm not special enough to have some magical invisible assault repellent.

Re: New anon speaking

[(Anonymous)]

You're missing the point, though. No one is saying that most women go through life in a constant state of fear, but that at some points in their lives, they will have experienced that fear. And that when women find themselves in certain situations, the fear is likely to arise. Whereas men will find themselves in the same situations and not think anything of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Men are more likely to be murdered AND be violently assaulted, so...yeah.

[(Anonymous)]

I hear this a lot, but what are the exact statistics backing this claim? What studies do they derive from, and what research parameters do they employ? Do they survey a normal population of both sexes, or do they also take into account violence committed in the context of organized crime?

In any case, even if physical assault is statistically more likely to happen to men, that doesn't mean it's something women don't have to fear. You think a woman has nothing to worry about every time she comes home late from work? Walks through a "bad" neighbordhood carrying a handbag? Is alone at home at night? The fear of sexual violence is just the lovely cherry that gets added on top of this shit.

[(Anonymous)]

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv12.pdf

Here, this has answers to most of the questions you were asking. But they have tons more data at that site if you want to dig deeper; there's a lot of really interesting number-crunching going on.

Short version: yes, men are victims of violent crime more often, yes, that's accurate.

[(Anonymous)]

Three things of concern:

- Sexual assault is categorized as a violent crime, but is severely under-reported.
- This report does not actually answer my question about violence in the context of organized crime (i.e. violence committed by criminals against each other). If those statistics are factored in, of course the balance will be tipped toward male victims.
- The average discrepancy is actually about 5-6 in 1000 cases, so really not enough to make the case that men are in overwhelmingly more danger. In reality, both sexes experience about the same level of fear toward robbery and assault because you don't read about something like that in the paper and think, "Thank god, that happened to a man." You think, "Oh god, he was a jogger like me," or, "Fuck, that happened in my neighborhood."

In short, statistics don't always provide the full picture and actually don't matter that much when the discussion is about popular psychology.

[(Anonymous)]

"statistics don't always provide the full picture and actually don't matter that much" STATISTICS DON'T MATTERRRRRRRRRRRRR! Then shut the fuck up about rape statistics. Obviously, they don't matter. Fucking idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

BY OTHER MEN.

Just sayin'.

[(Anonymous)]

This, too. Maybe we should look at breakdowns of criminals based on genders too.