[ SECRET POST #2640 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2640 ⌋

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Comments

[diet_poison]

idk about Sherlock, but I think irl there's a difference between complete lack of a conscience v. having trouble feeling empathy. Someone with Asperger's isn't going to be 100% down with killing people, for example.

[diet_poison]

No, I don't think they have, but I assumed it was just because they don't know what "sociopath" means. It doesn't necessarily indicate that they have Asperger's, it just indicates special snowflake syndrome, with the sad side-effect of watering down a very, very important and very, very extreme concept.

...I guess I'm confused by what you mean by "not much difference" because there is a ton of difference. Unless you mean there's not a lot of difference in the whole self-diagnosis phenomenon in which case yeah, I see what you're saying.

[diet_poison]

I see what you're saying, yeah, and ia. I misunderstood your earlier comment.

[(Anonymous)]

Incidentally, I vaguely remember reading some research (okay, some abstracts, the journals were behind paywall) to the effect that people with ASPD and people with ASD both have abnormal gray matter to white matter ratios, but in the opposite directions. So on the one hand you have a population which is good at reading people and sending the right signals in social interaction but lacks cognitive empathy, and on the other hand you have a population with poor affective empathy and who struggle to read others' emotions but are capable of feeling very strongly for them when they can tell what's going on.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, that's some interesting research.

Do you have any links?

[(Anonymous)]

No, hence the 'vaguely remember'. I'm sorry I can't offer more than that, it was a while ago and I didn't bother bookmarking anything because it didn't offer free access.

[diet_poison]

huh, that's actually quite interesting. It's too bad you don't have the links.

[elialshadowpine]

Just adding to this, I don't have the links either, but I remember reading about this too. It is also in line with my own experiences being on the autism spectrum. I have a great deal of empathy. I just don't always know the correct way to show it, and it is something I sometimes have to think about. (I have sorta in my head a "rulebook" of sorts for social interactions, that I add to over time, in my head, so I'm a lot better at it than I used to be, but when I was younger.. yeah it was a definite issue.)

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Someone with ASD is also not capable, AFAIK, of executing complicated ponzi schemes (for example), nor would they be inclined to. (I...don't think...?) From what I've seen, people with autism or ASD are incapable of communicating/making a connection with people at all, so they don't see themselves or others in ANY relation. Whereas a sociopath/psychopath is able to communicate and form connections with others quite readily...and they use this to their advantage, due to a lack of empathy.

[diet_poison]

From what I've seen, people with autism or ASD are incapable of communicating/making a connection with people at all, so they don't see themselves or others in ANY relation.

Isn't...that a bit extreme? Not ever capable, at all?

[(Anonymous)]

No. People with autism/ASD can very often communicate, they just do it in very idiosyncratic ways. You need to learn to read them, just as they need to learn to read NTs (neurotypical people).

/proud mum of ASD adult

[(Anonymous)]

No, people on the spectrum can definitely communicate and make connections (although really severely autistic people may not be able to), they just do it in atypical ways that might not make sense to others.