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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2641 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2641 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't, it is just group hysteria and bandwagon jumping. You ever notice how if you get one kid in a class that is scared of something then pretty soon all the other kids are scared of it too even if they weren't before? Same thing in fandom. In this case it was the "lets pile on the weeaboos" bandwagon during the anime explosion. Most people have no problem with that sort of costume performance at Disneyworld, or in parades, or in mascots for football games, but mix it with anime and the result is hysteria and people lining up to say how creeped out they are.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

That was very insightful, and I think accurate.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-03-28 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Or I legit think it's creepy for uncanny valley reasons. Like, I never even see these people or their haters anyway, how can I bandwagon onto something I know almost nothing about?

You do know people have different thresholds for uncanny valley, right? I know some friends of mine who can't watch Meet the Robinsons. It's not because they bandwagoned their way to hateville. It's because the animation freaks them out. Yet, that movie is one of my favorites. Oh my gosh we have a different threshold. People are different! Amazing.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Most people didn't even know there was such a thing as the uncanny valley effect until tvtropes put an article up on it. As soon as they read it though they were running around citing its effect. Just like how if a newspaper has a slow news day and prints an article about #localghost or bigfoot, the day after everyone is saying how they saw bigfoot in the minimart or had an encounter with the ghost they just never spoke about. People just like to get in on things.

How you can bandwagon, well you know they exist from the internet and probably a Pratchett newsgroup, and you know that it is kinda okay to bash them. Then you edited tvtropes a couple of times, saw uncanny valley. Bingo, there you are. Fully minted and ready to take part in a herd activity without ever a single direct interaction. Hell, switch out those cosplayers for a Frenchman and you'd, oops sorry your "friends"'d be standing in a tea-party rally along with the rest of the freaks ready to get in on the crowd-action and public shrieking.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-03-28 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Except I knew about it from a class and it's a real thing. You can't tell me uncanny valley isn't real. It's based on the uncanny and, true, Freud was a hack and most of what he wrote on it was bullshit but some rang true. It also comes from robotics and is a real thing animators try to avoid. Also, who goes on TV Tropes anymore? Are they still chugging along?

I don't know what a Pratchett newsgroup is. I didn't know it was okay to bash them, only that I thought it was kinda creepy. I heard about it because a friend showed me a picture and said there was a new kind of cosplay. I asked my friend to not show it to me again.

You make so many assumptions about me to fulfill your biased opinion about people who don't agree with you because I don't think like you and that means my opinions are false and wrong and bad. Grow up.

It's a legitimate opinion some people have. Just because it isn't yours doesn't mean it's groupthink and you're the lone island of sanity. It's fucking cosplay. My gosh. You're seriously pretentious. Why are you so upset people don't like a kind of cosplay you do?

Edit: Wait... I'm slow today. Are you fucking with me?
Edited 2014-03-28 01:51 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I find it pretty disconcerting because the bodies are human but the faces are really smooth and featureless. Because of this secret, I did look at some pictures online and find that it's executed more and less successfully but in a general sense, I think there's a reason for finding it a little weird to look at.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, there's a reason why Disney uses glorified dress-up for their human characters instead of suits.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
DA--No idea about anyone else's comments, but mascot costumes, Disney performers in full creature-type outfits (but not face characters just in costumes+makeup+wigs) etc. creep me out. Depending on the character, as long as the proportions look like there's a regular human under it (so like carnival/venetian masks) full face masks are fine. People in masks that obscure most of the face but leave the neck and ears or part of the chin or forehead or the eyes visible don't scare me at all. Not sure why.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-03-28 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Speaking of Disney performers, have you seen Hook? They should turn him into a face character because my gosh is he creepy.