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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-28 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2642 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2642 ⌋

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iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: A hypothetical question

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-03-29 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
You make a good point. This answer is not without its problems and whether or not someone believes is very personal information.

But it would be interesting to know if the preachers telling people that God wants them to send him money, or the politicians telling the little old ladies that he voted the way he voted because he checked his Bible and Jesus said to vote that way, really believed in anything.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
"But it would be interesting to know if the preachers telling people that God wants them to send him money, or the politicians telling the little old ladies that he voted the way he voted because he checked his Bible and Jesus said to vote that way, really believed in anything."

Exactly. That's why I want the power. I think it would be interesting to see if they actually believe in what they preach.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
As I keep saying throughout this thread, you don't need telepathy to see if they actually believe in what they preach. You can evaluate whether or not someone believes what they preach, by what they do. Frex, if the TV preacher asks for money all the time, clearly he's worshipping Mammon, and doesn't believe what he preaches (that the Bible is the Word of God, which tells us NOT to worship money, not to take bribes, which the green hankie thing basically is).

As for the politician...if he says he voted because Jesus told him to, Jesus never talks about voting, but Paul (I...think...? Will have to check the verse.) tells one congregation he writes to, that they aren't to "be of the world" which a significant number of Christians (I am among them) take as an instruction NOT to vote, nor to be involved in worldly politics.

So, I don't need telepathy to see if either of your examples believe what they preach. Their actions preach, quite loudly in fact, that they do not. The key for me, is that I don't judge or look down on them for not believing what they preach. To my beliefs, they, too, will have a chance to repent of being hypocrites.

Whether or not the TV preacher and/or the politician will take that chance, and repent, is entirely on them.
iceyred: By singlestar1990 (Default)

Re: A hypothetical question

[personal profile] iceyred 2014-03-29 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's not always that black and white. Say a woman volunteers for every committee at her church and she always maneuvers herself into a leadership position, talks loudly, and is a drama queen.

You could look at that and see someone volunteering for the opportunity to put themselves in the limelight, and guess they don't really do it out of love for Christ or their fellow man. Or you could guess her therapist told her to volunteer, and she's just not very self-aware and is a little too enthusiastic. Actions don't always tell motivations.

You're right, in practice this would be a horrible kind of telepathy. But it would be interesting.

Re: A hypothetical question

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Like I told anon, it is possible to know whether or not they believe, and that's by observing what they do, against what whichever holy book they bang on, actually says.

Example: The preacher saying God wants his sheeple to give him money? There's a verse in the Bible about not worshipping Mammon, often taken to mean/translated as money. Plus, money is the root of all evil, the Torah states repeatedly not to take bribes or usury (lend with interest), and Jesus was rather displeased with the moneylenders in the Temple, the list goes on.

As for the politician, if he's hearing voice, he's got other issues. :-P Sorry. More serious response, one of the letters to the churches exhorts Christian followers to "be in the world not of the world" -- which is interpreted by some (myself amongst them) to indicate that we are to steer clear of all politics and/or partisanship.

JMO.