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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-30 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #2644 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2644 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I haven't read the new runs yet but Carol in old comics was great. And I liked the costume with the scarf tied to her hip.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
It's possible the costume changed just got more people into her. It makes it seem like Marvel is now taking her seriously, too.

Personally, Shanna the She Devil could be the greatest character Marvel has, but when I see her in her tiny leather bikiny on the cover it makes me want to read about her less, not more.
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
A new suit, a new monicker, a new solo book... yes, it does seem so.

I didn't say her past didn't matter, I just said all these changes attracts new fans. Of the kind that raves, apperantly.
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
No, being taken seriously because pants is valid in the comic book world.

I'm getting more and more annoyed with people who forget that Ms Marvel, Wonder Woman, She-Hulk, Power Girl, etc are not designed that way because omg empowering leotard but because it's hot and they were designed for men. And they get defensive about it--oh god, ESPECIALLY Wonder Woman. "How DAAAARE you slutshame!" Yeah, sorry, WW isn't a real person who chose her wardrobe. Her wardrobe was chosen to be sexy, so that the first thing you think of when you see her is how sexy she is.

It's not JUST the costume--it's also the moniker. She's no longer supposed to be a derivative of her male counterpart.

It's fine if some heroines have the leotard. I don't think it's all bad. But Ms Marvel had a boring design (ooh, zig zag and sash how brilliant of course that doesn't look a thing like ANOTHER Marvel...) that really didn't even match the Marvel Universe to begin with.

No one said her accomplishments were invalidated. But it's absolutely fair for people to pay more attention to a character because they've been redesigned to look cool AND tough AND practical (with some flair) instead of sexy first.
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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2014-03-30 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I cared! I've been a fan since Chris Claremont was writing her. Her Binary costume rocked and also covered up, so I don't think it's just "omg her legs are showing". The new costume is part of taking her more seriously and promoting her as a solo hero, so I think you should be happy that she's got a lot more fans now. I am!

(Anonymous) 2014-03-31 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this.

And am I the only one who absolutely hates her new look?
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[personal profile] iggy 2014-03-31 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
She wasn't as accessible to new female audiences back then. Yeah she was awesome, but she was still in a fanservice-y outfit with hella male gaze in a lot of books featuring her. For a lot of girls getting into comics, that's alienating. Her new series and new look was also launched around the time Avengers came out, which brought in a lot of new lady comic book fans.