[ SECRET POST #315 ]

[degrees.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #315 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

HAVE A RANDOM POLL. YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO. FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #045.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 ] repeats.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Saturday, November 17th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: 44

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

Bela and Ruby are actually quite important to the plot, I'd argue. Bela was central to two episodes and certainly useful in a third. And Ruby, well. She doesn't count to the secret maker, but she is clearly being set up to be an important part of the "is Sam still SAM?" arc. (She's no more a Mary Sue, IMO, than Bobby.)

And if the thought of a strong recurring female character makes you want to throw up, what's your opinion on Ellen?

Also-- "just the thought of a strong female character on SPN makes me want to throw up a little." That sort of comment is why people think SPN fandom is misogynist. If you feel the need to argue the point, kindly reread that sentence. I'll be over in my headdesking corner.

Re: 44

[so-jayded.livejournal.com]

I think the very significant difference is that I don't mind strong female roles - I'm actually quite miffed that most of my fandoms don't have enough of them - but I don't think Supernatural is the right venue for a very strong recurring female character that'll not get killed or be a demon.

Re: 44

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

But Bobby is totally okay. And Hendrickson. And Gordon (oh wait, he was a recurring character who DID get killed off. Because we can always tell that a character will survive their arc when they're introduced.)

I'm sorry you can't understand when you're being sexist.

Re: 44

[so-jayded.livejournal.com]

I never said I didn't hate the other guys. I'm pretty sure I had a party when the fucking stupid Gordon plot ended.

Re: 44

[ryuutchi.livejournal.com]

Then don't be a fuckwit and say you "don't like strong women" when you "don't like recurring characters" on Supernatural. The first one makes you sound like a sexist fuckwit. The second one is stupid in the context of an ongoing television show but understandable.

Re: 44

[so-jayded.livejournal.com]

I definitely don't like the women more because I feel like they're being forced into a boy's club atmosphere. Kind of like if there was suddenly a male babysitter in the Babysitter's club back when I used to read it. I would've hated it.