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Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

Does anyone have recs?

For TV, I'm talking, like, 1970s (or, if it even existed at all, 1960s). For movies, I mean explicit stuff, not just implications regarding campy male characters or whatever.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[tabaqui]

JODIE! Oh, how i loved him. And that show. DAMN, that was a funny show.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

For TV:

1972 - That Certain Summer, a TV movie with Martin Sheen and Hal Holbrook, was I think the first sympathetic TV movie about gays.

1977 - the TV show had the first regular gay character on primetime TV, however the show was a soap-opera spoof, i.e., not very serious.

1977 - the Starsky & Hutch episode "Death in a Different Place" one of the first (I think it was THE first, but I'm not sure) sympathetic and explicit discussions/portrayals of homosexuality.

I don't know much about movies, since the Hayes Code messed with the trajectory of what was acceptable to be shown in theaters for a long time.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[galerian-ash.livejournal.com]

A lot of older movies couldn't have explicitly gay characters, due to the laws at the time. But that doesn't mean that they didn't exist! Take "Flesh And The Devil", from 1926, for example -- it's a love story between two men, period. Or, since I've yet to meet anyone else who's seen that particular movie, there's also "Rebel Without A Cause" (1956) and several others.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

I remember there was an episode of MASH - in the Henry/Trapper era, so before 1976 - about a gay soldier who had been beaten up by his fellow soldiers for being gay. It was called "George."

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

All in the Family had an episode about it.

a clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYbV8ybBXV0

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

The Boys in the Band was I think the first movie to be about gay characters and what living as a gay guy is like. It came out in 1970. However, it's pretty hated nowadays, because most of the characters are miserable, bitter, losers, mentally troubled, alcoholic, sleazy, etc.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[ginainthekingsroad]

It's British, not American, and not even modern material, but there is a televised version of Christopher Marlowe's Edward II from 1970 that emphasizes the queer themes. Ian McKellan is Edward and David Calder is his lover Piers Gaveston. It's quite good, even for a tv adaptation of a stage production.

PTC did this Edward II in repertory with Shakespeare's Richard II, which was also filmed but isn't available over here afaik.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

You might want to check out the documentary The Celluloid Closet for some ideas. It's been so long since I saw it that I don't remember any specifics. I think it only dealt with movies and not TV.

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

Victor/Victoria (1982) - it's stated, not implied, but there isn't explicit sex

Cabaret (1972)

Re: Early gayness on American movies and TV

[(Anonymous)]

The Ritz (1976) is a comedy-farce about a straight man on the run from hitmen who hides in a gay bathhouse. It's pretty entertaining, actually.