[ SECRET POST #2650 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2650 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Possible wank inducer? Still "interesting" though

[(Anonymous)]

Last week on this very community, I pointed out that men are much more likely to be victims of murder than women are. One commenter said that those stats didn't count unless they analyzed how many of those male murder victims were criminals, and thus basically asking for it, unlike any female murder victims.

The way we talk about murder in this society is, in fact, weirdly gendered. It's just also more complicated than people want to admit.

Re: Possible wank inducer? Still "interesting" though

[(Anonymous)]

Well, gang-related murder in particular is a bit different than the murder of bystanders. Like, gang members don't deserve to be murdered, especially with all the complex socio-economic factors involved in many people getting involved with gangs, sometimes at extremely young and impressionable ages, however gang-violence is a relatively... mutual affair? The victims are still victims, of course, but they're not necessarily innocent victims, in a similar way to soldiers who die in a war not being innocent victims.

Now, of course, if a gang member was murdered outside of gang-related violence (like, say, they were murdered by a serial killer), then I would consider them an innocent victim. It's not the fact of being a criminal that makes the situations different, but rather that by becoming a part of a gang in an area where inter-gang violence exists or is likely to exist, you are essentially choosing a side in a conflict, and sometimes wars have casualties.

Also, the methods of dealing with the various types of violence are rather different. I'd say the biggest root of gang violence is, well, the existence of gangs in the first place. If people put more focus on a) alleviating some of the socio-economic factors that drive young people to join gangs, b) rehabilitating gang members, and c) protecting people who wish to leave gangs, then over time the number of gang members and thus the amount of gang violence would likely drop.

Whereas something like spousal murder, which is most likely to be committed by men on women, is likely deeply routed in misogyny and sexism inherent in society, and would need to be addressed by reducing that.

I don't even think there is anything to do about serial killers, though, other than to catch them and never let them out again. Though I think incidents of public mass-murders and bombings could potentially be reduced if the media focused primarily on the victims and let the perpetrators rot in jail in obscurity.