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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-07 07:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #2652 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2652 ⌋

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
iirc, she wasn't pissy. She was terrified, which I would have been, too.
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[personal profile] ibbity 2014-04-08 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
She said it "wasn't fair" that she might have to face consequences for blinding a man...
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
ah, well, I did not remember that bit. I'd have to go back and re-read it.

ETA: just re-read the thread (loracarol posted it above). No, she wasn't pissy at all. She was terrified.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
You seem to have a personal grudge against her. ??

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I think he means it's good that she's terrified of consequences after blinding someone. Because someone like that really deserves to be scared.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
That just sounds...vengeful. o.O
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-04-08 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
being blinded is one of those things I put up there as "really really horrible things I never want to happen to anybody ever"

Thus anybody who does such a thing deliberately to another person is on my "really really horrible people I wish lifetimes of misery to" list.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how you expect people to react to someone blinding someone else. Yes, she did something stupid and she is scared. If she, say, went off on the guy and got in trouble, I would be more sympathetic. Or accidentally spilled coffee on the dude. Shit happens and no one really gets hurt.
But she partly blinded someone by throwing hot coffee in his eyes. She deserves to face the consequences. We're not calling for a witch-hunt here, just that she should accept her responsibilities and the fact that she nearly blinded someone over questionable offenses is not okay. Seriously, she never even suggested she was guilty over it.

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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-04-08 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
In the same way you seem to have sympathy for her and wish her well... I have the exact opposite.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. I have sympathy for almost everyone who is in a tight spot, even if it's their fault they're there. If you're implying that I think she did the right thing or something, then...no. But making a mistake - even a big one - doesn't warrant the undying hate of a stranger on the internet, imo.

I mean I see where you're coming from, I guess I just don't get your attitude.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-04-08 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hate is strong. hate implies I think about her when these threads aren't being mentioned.

But there are no good thoughts in me for this person and there likely never will be.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
As well she should have been, honestly. I genuinely hope she's in jail and the victim received fitting compensation.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well. She should have been. She physically assaulted someone for looking at her. That someone suffered serious harm. I hope she goes to fucking jail, because she deserves to.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's reasonable for her to be terrified of the consequences of her action, but from start to finish she also displayed a massive sense of injury that there were consequences.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. I did not pick that up from the thread.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
We'll have to agree to disagree; my dominant impression of coffee anon was her attitude of "poor me, I am so persecuted."
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2014-04-08 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Unfortunately, I have to agree with the other folks. The reaction I got was that she was upset that she might have to face consequences and she felt that was unfair. There was also a thread recently where she posted an update (sometime in the past week or two, I think) where she said that she was upset because people at work were avoiding her and walking on eggshells around her which... um. Is kinda to be expected when you do something to that degree?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man, do you have a link to that?
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2014-04-08 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
I don't, sorry. :( It was in the GC sometime within the last 2-3wks as far as I know. It was, I believe, posted either at the end of the thread, or at the end of the day, and so it didn't really get much attention. I only saw it because I normally don't get around to checking F!S until about 10pm or later PST.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Hm, I did not see that thread so I can't say much on it.

I guess I just got a really different vibe from the entire thread. It reminded me a little bit of when I had my car crash and those few horrible moments where I was afraid I'd seriously hurt someone (fortunately I didn't, both of us walked away from the wreck). That said, it is the internet and voices are very hard to read so I guess we don't really know.

Now that I think about it I probably would have reacted at least a little bit differently. My overriding emotion would have been fear that I'd hurt someone, not fear that I'd be in jail, though that would still certainly be there. Being in jail would suck, but it wouldn't undo the damage done. But we really don't know what she was thinking.
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2014-04-08 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't so much the original post as it was the various follow-ups, for me. On the first post, I was willing to look at it, sort of like you describe, as still being stuck in the moment because it was so recent, but the responses over a longer period (and especially the recent one, I wish I had saved that, I didn't realize it was posted so late that most people hadn't seen it) were what bothered me the most. Especially during one of the early but not original posts where it had been a few days and she continued to justify her actions as reasonable. That's where I lost sympathy and looked at the earlier posts in a different light.

Same here. I can't fathom my first response being to throw my cup of coffee. Hell, I've never even splashed someone in the face with water. I just, how the hell is this an instinctive response? I guess that is one of my things with it, because it's an action I can't even see being my first go-to. I can't say I've ever known anyone who that would be true for, either.

And yeah, especially in the following threads, there was a major feeling (to me) of not caring about the other guy. I think she outright said that he was sexually harassing her, he deserved to be blinded. Other people said it but she was definitely saying it too. I mean, it might've been completely unintentional on his part but even if it wasn't HOW IS THAT DESERVING OF HAVING YOUR SIGHT TAKEN AWAY? She continued to show no sympathy for him at all but plenty of worry about if she'd end up in jail. No remorse, no worry for him, none of that. That just had me in WTF-land.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-04-08 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I think she outright said that he was sexually harassing her, he deserved to be blinded. There were some (possibly, hopefully, trolly) anons, or maybe just one anon, who did say that. They were off their rocker. I don't remember OP saying that, but for all we know maybe it was all the same person, IDK...

I'm coming to the conclusion that I missed a lot of context and info by not seeing the other follow-up threads. I just saw the ones on the first and second day.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 03:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it may have been radfem!anon who was all over that thread, stanning for coffee!anon and saying that the guy deserved to be blinded, and anyway losing ~only one eye was NBD; but I've also wondered more than once if it was coffee!anon herself.

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
But the difference between you and her is that your first thought was "Oh my God, what if I hurt someone." And while we don't know what was going through her mind at the time, never once in that thread did she express the slightest sense of guilt for her actions or concern for the person that she harmed; it was never "Oh my God, what have I done"--from beginning to end it was "what's going to happen to MEEEEEE! this is so unfair to me."