[ SECRET POST #2655 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2655 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Divergent]


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04. [WARNING for underage character+sex?]



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[Archer]


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[Hannibal]


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[Wolverine and the X-Men]










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Comments

[blitzwing]

...That's about the amount aspiring authors are recommended to write. 2000 words a day. What pace do you think published authors have? Many of them turn out a novel a year, some even more than that, and the yearly pace is often because of the time spent with it being edited by pro editors and re-written. The first few Temeraire books were churned out within months of each other and don't seem to have suffered too badly for it.

A lot of NaNo novels may be shit but that doesn't prove that it's writing 2k-ish a day that is the cause of that. (There are a lot of factors for that--the fact that a lot of the writers are under 18, etc).

I'm also not sure where you're getting that a revision is needed to make a work "remotely presentable". Revising and editing will usually improve the quality of a work, but it's not magic. A work usually has to be readable and good before the revision if it's going to turn out that way in its final form. Do you really think J.K. Rowling or Stephen King's novels weren't "remotely presentable" before they were sent to the editor? They were probably still quite good and enjoyable even in rough form.

[(Anonymous)]

What?

First, who on Earth is suggesting aspiring authors write 2k words a day? I've seen "write something every day" but never such a ridiculous wordcount.

Second, do you seriously believe that the nano books of older people are better than the ones of the younger writers? Ahahaha! That's cute. Pretty much every NaNo book is crap because 50k words of quality prose in a story that's consistent and engaging all the way through is a pretty hefty task and trying to do it in a month is possible but wildly unlikely. It just takes more time to do even an okay job, much less a good one.

And finally, this one bugs me. You seriously... I mean, SERIOUSLY... don't think Stephen King and J. K. Rowling revise their books before they sent them to the editor? They do. They revise several times. They've both said so, publicly, multiple times. Rowling sometimes rewrites entire chapters from scratch multiple times. King sometimes prints out his novel and retypes it to check the flow and force him to think about the words.

A first draft is going to be crap 99.9 percent of the time. On reversion, the author may change themes, combine characters, just decide entire scenes don't work. they may change the ending when they get there and need to adjust lead-up events to match it. And revision by revision, the story turns into something presentable, or even awesome. Like magic!

No professional author except maybe Anne Rice would submit their original draft to an editor. It would get laughed out, assuming they didn't just get the form rejection.

[blitzwing]

First, who on Earth is suggesting aspiring authors write 2k words a day? I've seen "write something every day" but never such a ridiculous wordcount.

You really must not write much. That is not a lot at all, as both myself and several other writers in this thread have weighed in. It is the amount Stephen King writes every day, and I've seen quite a few other authors that mention word counts around that number. Check (downthread? upthread? I don't remember) and the author that worked themselves up to 10k a day originally started at 2k or 3k a day. This is a very standard amount to recommend and the general consensus is that if you do much less than that, you're not going to get anywhere. My pace is a bit slower than some of the others in this thread: I do about 1k an hour. Still, 2 hours a day is not much for any favorite hobby. 2 hours watching TV a day or playing games is not ridiculous.

Second, do you seriously believe that the nano books of older people are better than the ones of the younger writers? Ahahaha! That's cute. Pretty much every NaNo book is crap because 50k words of quality prose in a story that's consistent and engaging all the way through is a pretty hefty task and trying to do it in a month is possible but wildly unlikely. It just takes more time to do even an okay job, much less a good one.

Cute? How? It's "cute" to take notice of the general observation that older people are often more experienced and educated? It's "cute" to think that a 28-year old will probably produce a better novel than a 13-year old? Uhhh, okay. You keep on with arguing against that.

And finally, this one bugs me. You seriously... I mean, SERIOUSLY... don't think Stephen King and J. K. Rowling revise their books before they sent them to the editor? They do. They revise several times. They've both said so, publicly, multiple times. Rowling sometimes rewrites entire chapters from scratch multiple times. King sometimes prints out his novel and retypes it to check the flow and force him to think about the words.


Yep, they do revise. But it still doesn't take mean that the original manuscript is "unpresentable". If you have an unpresentable original manuscript, then that usually means you cannot turn it into a good book. Ever. Revisions and editing are supposed to polish up a book; not turn a piece of crap into a diamond. You just sound very naive about writing and publishing in general.


No professional author except maybe Anne Rice would submit their original draft to an editor. It would get laughed out, assuming they didn't just get the form rejection.

Form rejection? Your inexperience is showing again. You clearly have no idea what submitting as a published author is like. You may already have an advance before you even produce a rough manuscript.

[(Anonymous)]

And you sound like a pretentious idiot. Half of your sentences in this post alone are grammatically messy at best. I pity your editor, you hack.

[blitzwing]

And you sound like a pretentious idiot.

And you can't successfully attack my statements, so you attack me with insults instead.

Half of your sentences in this post alone are grammatically messy at best.

You should see my text messages :)

I pity your editor, you hack.

I'll take that as a compliment. Some of my favorite authors have been called hacks, after all.

[beverlykatz]

What? 2000 words per day isn't a lot at all, particularly if you're inspired. I can get that much down in an hour or so, if I sit myself down and do it, and I'm not a fast writer by any means.

Also, an older author is almost definitely going to have a significantly better NaNo than a teenager. They've been writing for longer, for one, and they've got more life experience to draw from. Not saying that there aren't good young authors, because there are, just not as many.