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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-15 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2660 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes it is. And characterizing changing the nature of the country to be one that meets modern standards of basic human rights as "destruction" is inaccurate at best. The idea of a country based around a single ethnic group that does not grant equal rights to other groups and specifically excludes those other groups (not just Palestinians but also African refugees), discriminates against them, destroys their homes and takes their land, have separate schools that aren't in any way equal, taken away their homes with flimsy excuses that really boil down to them being Palestinian, and made it difficult for people to reach their own homes/jobs/etc. Basically all the things that happened in the US and South Africa that were condemned and eventually ended and things that are all clear, egregious violations of international law.

Let me just say up front that I think that suicide bombing and any other targeting of civilians is wrong, and while I understand the desire to resist and fight for one's rights I personally think that violence that targets civilians is the wrong way to do it. But Israel targets civilians too, and in every other area they are completely and totally the only ones in the wrong. And no other country would be able to have laws that specifically favor one ethnic group over another (sure it happens in the US, but any law that is that overt would be struck down) and still held up as a model of human rights.

Here is a very good explanation of the actual situation from a Jewish organization: http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/content/israeli-palestinian-conflict-101

(Anonymous) 2014-04-16 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
No it isn't. Taking a country and changing its demographic makeup as well as its entire nature despite the wishes of the majority of its citizens under the guise of "human rights" is certainly destroying it.

The idea of a country based around a single ethnic group is the reality of most of today's countries, and Israel does grant equal rights to all of its citizens. Please show me one law in Israel illegaly discriminating between people by their ethnicity. Your "separate schooling system" is laughable- the schools are separated by the students mother tongue. I'm fairly sure that if Israel would have only one schooling system, forcing all children to study in the majority language, Hebrew, you'd be crying racism over forcing Arab children to study in Hebrew. Arab citizens of Israel do not get their houses taken from them and there is nothing in Israel that is similar to Apartheid.

Israel isn't the only side that is completely and totally in the wrong in any other area, but I'm not surprised to hear that is your lopsided POV.

Here're some very good articles about the actual situation from a Palestinians writer:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/author/Khaled+Abu+Toameh

And a project that's actually dedicated to truth, not to spouting baseless nonsense:

https://www.youtube.com/user/coreygilshuster/featured