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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-19 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2664 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Hey, I don't mind, it's an interesting conversation. I like trying to wrap my mind around other peoples' perspectives. (Well, sometimes.) And please don't think I'm trying to push my beliefs on you, or anything, I really do want to understand where you're coming from.

Your last sentence, though, makes me think that you DO have hope (even if you can't see that at all at the moment; yeah, I've been there), even if it doesn't "feel" like hope, or feel hope"ful" if that makes sense.

What I mean is, you say "it makes sense to pursue the light" -- that's basically what hope IS. Pursuing/looking towards something you can't see or maybe even experience, but that you have an abstract idea of, even though you have no concrete way of knowing that it exists, and you may never have that.

That is hope, in a nutshell. If I am being even remotely coherent at all here, that is.
dreemyweird: (murky)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-04-20 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe. I'm not sure. I don't like calling it that. Sense of honour, more like. "Hope", as I understand it, is the ability to believe that the future (or certain parts of the future) shall be good. Or at least the willingness to assume that a favourable outcome is more likely than the opposite. I have no such feelings. (Hence my idee fixe that I should always have the means to kill myself quickly and painlessly).

I don't find my current life bleak or particularly unbearable (it is pretty good, if anything), but it feels like walking on the edge of an abyss and I would be kind of surprised if I don't fall into it eventually. Doesn't mean that I should jump into it ASAP, but I doubt that's what you or anyone else would call "hope".
Edited 2014-04-20 01:38 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT again

"Hope", as I understand it, is the ability to believe that the future (or certain parts of the future) shall be good.

That's not hope, that's straight up delusional. The willingness to assume that a more favourable outcome is more likely than the opposite is what gets most people through their day/lives when things go sideways, that's true, but I wouldn't call that hope, as it's based on their past experiences, and the idea that they can reach the same baseline they reached before (at the very least), or just sheer, dogged determination, to go on in the face of what appear to be insurmountable odds.

The last sentence of your previous post is what I understand hope to be. That said, I could be wrong, too, so don't just take the word of some random anon on the Internet of all places.:-) I think everyone has their (to use a poor analogy) one-paycheck-away-from-homeless moments. That's part of the human condition. The fact that we do go on, even though there is absolutely no good, solid, logical reason to do so, is hope. Or what I think of as hope, anyway.
dreemyweird: (murky)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-04-20 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
O...kay. You may be right. I rather assumed it worked the way faith works (because faith sounds pretty "delusional", for want of a better term).

I may share ACD's credo. Hope for the best but expect the worst. [man, do I love ACD.]

Anyway, good luck to you! <3

(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

ACD's credo has been my motto in life for as long as I can remember, and I didn't even know it was his. :-) Though I always say, "Hope for the best, PLAN for the worst!"

Sorry the rest of the thread got so out of control/over the top on you, and best of luck to you as well!