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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-21 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2666 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2666 ⌋

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chardmonster: (Default)

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-22 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the thirteen year old should have taken control of the situation and stopped the gang rape by armed men, what a horrible person.
Edited 2014-04-22 01:50 (UTC)
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-22 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, my god, really? I want to answer this seriously, but I feel like you must be kidding. I'm never sure with you.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-22 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not.

You seem to think that a kid being forced to rape someone makes him a victimizer (how exactly is the thirteen year old supposed to resist here?). You seem to be following a rulebook rather than looking at context. Somehow, if we acknowledge that Tyrion is being raped, we're saying she's being less raped?

There are a hell of a lot of situations in warzones where men are forced to rape women by other men. By forced I mean literally being told they will be hurt or worse if they don't do it. I don't mean "social pressure."
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-22 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
But I agreed several times above that Tyrion was, indeed, raped/violated/assaulted/any word you want to apply to it by being forced to rape Tysha. My position is that acknowledging Tyrion was raped doesn't make Tysha herself any less raped by him. That is what I'm arguing against, that Tysha's rape by Tyrion wasn't rape because he was also forced. They were both violated, not one more or less than the other.
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[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-22 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Alright. That makes more sense. It's not what your original statement looks like, though.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-22 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm starting to realize that particular comment was where I completely fucked up in what I tried to express.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
But she really wasn't raped by him, she was raped by the father. This is how it works when you are dealing with children.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-22 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is something I didn't consider as much as I should have from the start, that Tyrion wasn't an adult, regardless of how he might have been regarded in-universe at the time.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
This. If we're following the rulebook, then yes, African child soldiers commit killing. We as society do not point fingers at them and say they are the victimizers, even if it's their fingers on the trigger.